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Post by dalten1 on Nov 12, 2019 15:04:23 GMT 1
Not to get hung up on daily departures but there were 28 in just one hour after the football the other night, probably more than any Summer hour here I would imagine. I don’t understand the doom mongering as Winters and especially Tuesdays are historically quiet. It’s not as though there is one scheduled movement as other airports have. The difference is there were very few people on most of those movements and probably very little business for the terminal outlets. Nobody has mentioned how Manchesters services have changed over last years offering. A lot more work required to collate that information, I would guess.
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Post by bulldog on Nov 12, 2019 15:50:39 GMT 1
Well as a guess Manchester is also quieter . Dropped my wife off last Wednesday for evening Emirates to Dubai along with daughter. In departures for T1 there was one other car dropping off. It was quiet to the point that I even remarked this to a “yellow vest” and he said it was much quieter since start of winter schedules. Picked them up from there this am. 07.00) and busier but nothing like summer. Re comments on package hols however I quite often book a package and indeed have just booked with Jet2 to Tenerife next April. Looked at Ezy from lpl and even 10 ish days ago flights from lpl to Tenerife were not on system. Also direct booking with hotel etc made trip more expensive than buying the package . This has often been the case lately. So the package model is not dead yet!
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Post by dalten1 on Nov 12, 2019 17:49:48 GMT 1
My comment regarding Manchester was between winter 2019 and winter 2018 not the difference between summer and winter. I totally agree regarding packages. Thomas Cook was a good example. Package passengers will be rescued according to package rules. Individually booked items are left to sort things out themselves. Not phrased very well.
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Post by kuga59 on Nov 12, 2019 18:14:07 GMT 1
Interesting article here - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-50368894Not strictly applicable to Liverpool but is the writing on the wall regarding short distance aircraft pollution, airport waiting times etc? Apparently London to Glasgow (city centre to city centre) is quicker by rail if you add travel to the airport plus waiting time and possible baggage collection. Hi BertJ What you have to look at is the traveling time to the city centre. It can take a couple of hours to travel into Kings Cross or Euston for most |Londoners and those in the home counties. Travel to the airports because they are out on the outskirts is a lot quicker and airports have parking, if you live in the suburbs. Airports can be a pain in the butt to get through but still can be quicker than trains. As an example, many years ago now a group of managers were invited to Edinburgh for a meeting. One of the group refused to fly and got the train. He left home at 5am to get into London to catch the train. He arrived in Edinburgh at 1.30pm. The rest of us flew via Stansted on Easyjet. I left home at 7.30am and the group arrived at 10.45am in the centre of Edinburgh.
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Post by silvercity on Nov 12, 2019 23:51:46 GMT 1
Not to get hung up on daily departures but there were 28 in just one hour after the football the other night, probably more than any Summer hour here I would imagine. I don’t understand the doom mongering as Winters and especially Tuesdays are historically quiet. It’s not as though there is one scheduled movement as other airports have. Im guessing the airport does quite well from these flights , I imagine they have to pay standard landing fees etc and wont receive discounts. Considering the current situation in the UK right now, I think LPL isnt doing too badly.
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Post by frlpl91 on Nov 29, 2019 14:48:55 GMT 1
not 100% sure but rumours going work saying the ryanair end of the airport, the gates numbers are being changed from 30- 40 something to 11 to 20 apparently which would make more sense.
also the domestic shutter is still broke, been broke now for about 4+ weeks passengers arriving from 50s stand having to walk down the stairs by the staff channel out the door round through the baggage bay are not very happy about it hopefully it will be fixed soon.
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Post by eye2eye5 on Dec 6, 2019 12:14:06 GMT 1
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Post by optimum1878 on Dec 6, 2019 14:36:18 GMT 1
It`s laughable when you think most of the airlines continue to snub our airport and city.
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Post by viscount on Dec 6, 2019 16:27:59 GMT 1
Why is this so laughable? A great deal of organisation, staff training and encouragement has likely gone into achieving these two awards. This is very much a way of the Airport management to be able to bring John Lennon to the attention of Airline managements in a positive light. Your cynical denigration of the achievement helps neither the forum, the Airport's staff or Airport's management in the task of the promotion of Liverpool's Airport.
You've had your say, I've had the opposite. We are poles apart in the way we think, end of topic.
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Post by LPL on Dec 6, 2019 16:55:47 GMT 1
I think you have the wrong end of the stick.
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Post by Beemer on Dec 6, 2019 16:57:08 GMT 1
Viscount I think you have miss read what optimum1878 is saying. "Its laughable" that even with all these awards and we still can not draw in big airlines. Beemer.
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Post by LPL on Dec 6, 2019 17:03:20 GMT 1
Exactly the way I read it.
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Post by viscount on Dec 6, 2019 20:20:37 GMT 1
Beemer, you seem to overlook that we already have the two of the largest airlines in western Europe and a third which is rapidly expanding from eastern Europe. The problem is that the big two are currently not of a mindset to expand at John Lennon. That is not a laughable situation. The fact that even so, JLA is proving popular with passengers and handling those airlines well is a great marketing message.
A subsidiary issue is that being dominated by the two largest airlines in Europe, smaller airlines are intimidated from entering into competition. Again awards can help JL management in approaching other airlines. These, and other awards, are important publicity while British airports are going through a patch of relative stagnation which is affecting the broad spectrum of mid-sized British airports and has as a major root cause Britain's unstable position in its relationship to the major European trading block.
Still poles apart.
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Post by baldyman26 on Dec 6, 2019 20:24:19 GMT 1
Me too, I agree, it is laughable... We have a terminal that gets passengers through security and on to planes really quickly, baggage reclaim , whilst not the best still is relatively quick and with some investment could be great, all these awards yet the 2 main airlines continue to kill any competition whilst treating Liverpool and its passengers as their play thing... What point are awards if the fantastic management continue to be held to ransom by the main players..
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Post by optimum1878 on Dec 6, 2019 20:40:03 GMT 1
Sorry Viscount,but you are totally wrong on this,the airport deserves all the awards it get`s and rightly so.If you can`t see that I was being sarcastic when everybody else can,then I can`t help you on that one,the fact of the matter is we are constantly ignored by major airlines other than Easy,Ryr wizz,who are our biggest carriers.If you look down the road you will see what I mean.I will always fly from and support Lpl.
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