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Post by Fox Echo on Jul 12, 2015 13:44:30 GMT 1
With the Irish Government & Ryanair having now agreed to sell their stakes of 25% & nearly 30% respectively in Aer Lingus to IAG Group (British Airways & Iberia), it remains to be seen what affect the sale will have on existing or planned Aer Lingus routes. Think it will all boil down to fleet efficiencies, route consolidation & value of slots.
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Post by kuefc09 on Jul 12, 2015 14:09:33 GMT 1
What so your saying the route could be cancelled?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 14:22:42 GMT 1
Going on past experience that was the way BA operated. If it didn't look good on paper or they could make more money elsewhere it had to go. Times are different now and they are in competition with Ryanair. So, anything that can reduce Ryanair's profitability whist maintaining a small margin for AIG will have a very good chance of staying. Having said that, we don't know what deal has been done with Ryanair to prise it's stake of them, only time will tell. If they haven't done an anti-competitive deal, lets hope the routes a resounding success.
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Post by ametyst on Jul 12, 2015 16:35:12 GMT 1
It has nothing to do with BA! Aer Lingus will be owned by IAG and will be a sister company to BA. All airlines within IAG operate independently apart from code-shares etc. that is why BA and Vueling compete on routes from London to Barcelona, Bilbao and Rome for instance.
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Post by bulldog on Jul 12, 2015 22:46:03 GMT 1
I would be doubtful sale will have any immediate effect on air lingus network. Willie Walsh and MOL know each other well historically and this is purely a personal thought, the agreement to sell ryr stake in air lingus I suspect has always been on the cards . It quite correctly has to go through regulatory hoops, but was never in doubt. The two networks will have good synergy and enhance both Iag and AL. Consolidation is the natural way forward. Sad for future spotters when there will be one airline controlled by star fleet .
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Post by ronturner on Jul 13, 2015 8:59:18 GMT 1
A lot has changed since the days of BEA/BA and Aer Lingus pre lo cost.
I think all options are open including taking the opportunity to expand networks. Consolidation or "cutting" is not necessarily the way forward.
Hubs at Madrid and Dublin as well as LHR could have a positive impact for Liverpool. I am a glass half full person so lets wait and see.
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Post by optimum1878 on Jul 13, 2015 17:56:03 GMT 1
Is it just me or is it every time we get a new route or airline that negativity sets in on weather the route or airline will fail or pull the plug. Let`s rejoice and be glad for the time being that these companies want to include LJLA in their plans,and why wouldnt they,the city is known all over the world,and let`s face it,its about time. Just my opinion.
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Post by eitlean on Jul 27, 2015 22:22:53 GMT 1
I'm an Irish exile over here, and I still listen to RTE (Irish radio). Over the past month or so Aer Lingus have been advertising the Dublin-Liverpool flight quite heavily - I'd take that as a positive sign that Aer Lingus are not about to pull the plug and are committed to making the flight work - in both directions. I'm quite looking forward to it, as I still fly back to Dublin quite a lot, and for some reason I prefer a green plane rather than a white-and-blue one for the journey!
Michael (or eitlean - which is the Irish/Gaelic word for 'airplane', if you've ever wondered)
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Post by John Jones on Jul 28, 2015 9:34:24 GMT 1
I'm an Irish exile over here, and I still listen to RTE (Irish radio). Over the past month or so Aer Lingus have been advertising the Dublin-Liverpool flight quite heavily - I'd take that as a positive sign that Aer Lingus are not about to pull the plug and are committed to making the flight work - in both directions. I'm quite looking forward to it, as I still fly back to Dublin quite a lot, and for some reason I prefer a green plane rather than a white-and-blue one for the journey! Michael (or eitlean - which is the Irish/Gaelic word for 'airplane', if you've ever wondered) That's great news, we should support Aer Lingus as much as possible. Flight comparisons in December LPL / DUB / NYC £537 booking direct Aer lingus. American Airlines MAN / NYC £1,000 . John j
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Post by vinnym on Jul 28, 2015 9:39:37 GMT 1
I'm an Irish exile over here, and I still listen to RTE (Irish radio). Over the past month or so Aer Lingus have been advertising the Dublin-Liverpool flight quite heavily - I'd take that as a positive sign that Aer Lingus are not about to pull the plug and are committed to making the flight work - in both directions. I'm quite looking forward to it, as I still fly back to Dublin quite a lot, and for some reason I prefer a green plane rather than a white-and-blue one for the journey! Michael (or eitlean - which is the Irish/Gaelic word for 'airplane', if you've ever wondered) Good to hear that they are pushing the route on RTE, haven't seen too much promotion this side of the Irish Sea, so far.
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Post by 8miles27 on Aug 31, 2015 13:41:39 GMT 1
Thought I'd have a look at the rise in seats available on the Dublin route over the next few months with Aer Lingus commencing late Oct and Ryanair adding to its schedule :
Month Ryanair Aer Lingus Total
Sep 34020 34020 Oct 35910 6264 42174 Nov 44226 34104 78330
So more than a doubling of seats available in two months!!!!!
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Post by eye2eye5 on Aug 31, 2015 13:56:01 GMT 1
How many seats did Ryanair have available in June - August (ie peak months) by comparison?
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Post by 8miles27 on Aug 31, 2015 16:15:51 GMT 1
Ryanair seats available, Jun 22680 (2 per day), Jul 23436 (2 per day) and Aug 35154 (3 per day).
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Post by eye2eye5 on Aug 31, 2015 16:25:25 GMT 1
Next Summer should be very interesting then! Thanks for doing the research.
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Post by wirralspotter09 on Sept 10, 2015 19:34:59 GMT 1
Have booked seats on EI193 for Tuesday 27th October, Plane was about 60% full when I selected my seats
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