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Post by bulldog on Aug 17, 2015 16:13:32 GMT 1
Seems that Indigo has just confirmed /placed an order for 250 A320Neos for a cool $26 billion. Largest ever order by number that Airbus has received.
As I have said before in the old days an order like that exceeded the total production run of a type. e.g. BAC1-11, Trident, VC10 in fact apart from the Viscount has any British Civil Airliner exceeded a production run of more than 250.
On that vein I believe the Mercure had a production of 10, Concorde 7 ( I think) anybody come up with anything smaller
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Post by viscount on Aug 17, 2015 19:04:24 GMT 1
The ATEL-41 Accountant? Production run of one, the prototype. Looked a little like a crude HS.748. The sole completed aircraft was permitted to wear an 'out of sequence' registration years before anyone else was, G-ATEL. In a similar time-frame, then there are further prototype only airliner aircraft even I would have to look up on Wikipedia for details of, such as the Bristol Brabazon, Armstrong Whitworth Apollo, Avro Ashton etc. You could be ruling all these out of your calculations as they were prototypes never intended for production runs and commercial use. One that might qualify as a minute production run, as they were built to an order from BOAC, was the Saro Princess, 3 built, of which one flew.
Actually Concorde production ran to 20 units, 7 was the number BA initially acquired, but a mere 10 for the Dassault Mercure is correct.
HPR-7 Dart Herald is another for your list of British small production aircraft, the BAe.ATP (at around 60?) didn't do so much better either. Then there is the Short Sealand, although not an airliner. There was also the Avro Tudor. Please don't overlook another noteable British aircraft with a small production run (around 20?), the AS.57 Ambassador.
More built than a Viscount? Well top produced British airliner ever is the Britten Norman BN-2 Islander, but at 9 seats is it a really a major airline type? How many BAe.146/Avro RJs were built? The Avro/HS/BAe.748 did reach some numbers if you include the BAe.ATP stretch and Indian built aircraft.
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Post by tony1965 on Aug 17, 2015 21:06:24 GMT 1
Its good to look back at the old times when Britain built complete aircraft. I started working at Woodford in 1987 and at that time the last two 748's were going through the facility. I think you are right in that approximately 60 ATP's/J61's were completed, though this was a vastly different aircraft to the 748 (though a lot of airframe components were the same) - as well as length, there was a new glass cockpit and an engine change from the Dart to the PWC 126. It was a lovely aircraft to work on and to fly on but it was never going to compete with the new designs from ATR and Bombardier. Another variant of the 748 was the Andover which was also built at the Manchester division of BAe.
Other commercial types were the Jetstream 31 which from memory I think over 400 were produced and the J41 with approximately 100.
The BAe 146 family was initially built at Hatfield and I think there were getting on for 200 of the originals built before it changed to the RJ family and production was switched to Woodford, again the main changes being the avionics suite, the engines and the interior, again there were approximately 200 made before it switched to the ill fated RJX of which there were 3 completed and flown, at the point of cancellation BAE had order from Druk and Flybe / jersey european which were never completed - all in all I remember approx 400 of the RJ/146 family being completed.
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Post by mb on Aug 17, 2015 21:43:00 GMT 1
Lockheed Saturn( nice looking a/c).....2.
Armstrong Whitworth Apollo.....2 also quite nice looking.
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Post by bulldog on Aug 18, 2015 14:26:13 GMT 1
Amazing info once again , I was only thinking along the lines of true airliners, but the J41 must therefore count. I had forgotten about the 146/RJ. Didn't realise they made 20 Concordes. I think age related dementia is deffo setting in here.
How many Skyvan, 330/360 were produced? They used to be very common here
Thanks for info
Clive
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Post by ronturner on Aug 19, 2015 7:41:34 GMT 1
The vanguard, few in number, and for that matter The VC-10 and Super VC-10 both underachieved their true potential. The Britannia too.
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