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Post by jetdragon on Aug 16, 2016 0:01:11 GMT 1
Hi All
Can anyone with a long memory recall the exact date of the Hawarden 1957 Battle of Britain Display?
MTIA
JD
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Post by viscount on Aug 16, 2016 0:55:55 GMT 1
Give me a few days as I know a man who might! If he does know, and if he was there should have a log of the day.
Coming at the question from a different angle, the MGAE magazine 'Northern Aeronews' list the Battle of Britain Air Display participants at: Turnhouse, Church Fenton, Thornaby, Gibraltar, Acklington, Hemswell, Binbrook, Valley, Dishforth, Colerne, Ternhill, Weeton - but no mention of Hawarden. The date is provided only once, as 14th September 1957. Likely correct as 14.09.1957 was indeed a Saturday - and the 15th is/was the official commemoration day selected as the day of the most decisive aerial battles of the 'Battle of Britain' phase of daylight attacks on Britain. The Battle of Britain Open Day and Air Display events on Saturday and the Sunday 'Battle of Britain Day' commemoration parades and church services were always held on the nearest weekend to the 15th.
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Post by jetdragon on Aug 16, 2016 3:11:00 GMT 1
Thanks Viscount - much appreciated
JD
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Post by jetdragon on Aug 19, 2016 12:27:26 GMT 1
Hi All
Apparently the last Battle of Britain display at Hawarden was on 15 Sep 1956 - therefore the 1957 display may not have been in September.
JD
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Post by viscount on Aug 19, 2016 12:50:44 GMT 1
That clearly explains why there is no report for a B of B display in the October MGAE 'Northern Aeronews' magazine.
Have now looked through all the 1957 magazines. While highlight movements for Hawarden are recorded for most months, nothing as regards mention of an air display. There was a peak of visitors for Chester Races 4th-9th May, and an official MGAE visit around the MU on 31st July. The de Havilland Sports and Social Club Day with brief factory open morning for 'families' in June and small air display were well established by 1965 (typically the second Saturday eg 12th June 1965) - but I have no idea when they started, and there is no mention of such an event in 'Northern Aeronews'.
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Post by viscount on Aug 19, 2016 14:46:58 GMT 1
Just to confuse the issue, nwan reader Eddie Quinn has sent me an e-mail with an illustration of a trial Vampire, the caption stating that the photo was taken at the "Hawarden Battle of Britain Airshow, September 1957" by R.L.Ward. The book is 'The History of the DH Vampire' by David Watkins.
Now that throws the cat among the pigeons !!
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Post by viscount on Aug 19, 2016 20:56:37 GMT 1
this thread is building to pantomime proportions
....."oh no it wasn't" .... "oh yes it was" .... "oh no it wasn't" ....
Phil Butler has contacted me by e-mail to categorically state that the last Battle of Britain Day Air Show at Hawarden was indeed 15th September 1956. Phil even provided the registration of the test Vampire in the static in 1956 - sure enough the same one as in the photo captioned 1957.
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Post by jetdragon on Aug 20, 2016 0:46:04 GMT 1
Very confusing I agree. Does Phil by any chance have a log from '56? I would be very grateful to see what was there if he's willing to share. I have seen photos of a few aircraft purportedly at a Hawarden display in '57 including Mossie TA719, a Balliol coded Z, a couple of meteors WA718, WH127, and a Shackleton WB861. I guess it's possible these were really 1956.
Thanks for your help in looking into this
JD
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Post by viscount on Aug 20, 2016 14:28:25 GMT 1
Oh no, this is now set to get even more confusing! Phil tells me that those registrations don't match the 1956 Hawarden Display - BUT - do match the 1956 HOOTON PARK Battle of Britain Air Display, just down the road. By sheer co-incidence, thanks to a series of negatives loaned to me to copy and post by the late Ian Foster, the September 1956 Hooton Park display has a list of participants and some photos already on this forum: derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/6279/hooton-parkSorry Jetdragon, but it seems we have now changed not only the year but also the place of your memories!! Otherwise we have a successful outcome ..... well that is if the participation list below does not throw-up any further confusion. HAWARDEN BATTLE OF BRITAIN AIR DISPLAY 15th SEPTEMBER 1956 This list appears in the first ever issue of the MGAE newsletter 'Merseyside Aeronews' (from which this forum can be considered a direct linear descendant) in November 1956. This list of participants compiled by Phil Butler and Alan Roach. I have not cross-checked the details with modern sources, this is the list as compiled (and subsequently corrected) in 1956. STATIC DISPLAY The RAF provided an excellent static display at Hawarden, the aircraft included:
VF547/B Auster 6 663 Sqdn XK408 Auster 9 VM370 Avro Anson C.19 173 Sqdn WB850 Avro Shackleton 1 240 Sqdn ? XB287 Blackburn Beverley WN153/- B-P Balliol WG322 DHC.1 Chipmunk T.10 G-ANTE DH.82 Tiger Moth TH990 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 WL609 DH 100 Vampire FR.9 in dark and light green/silver camouflage WP240 DH.113 Vampire NF.10 with a DH.110 type pointed radome XK627 DH.115 Vampire T.11 VP953 DH.104 Devon C.1 WX944 & WX949 DH. Venom 3 XG671 DH.Sea Venom F.21 No.393 DH.114 Heron 3 for Royal Iraqi Air Force WJ566 EE Canberra T.4 a conversion from B.2 WT337 & WT340 EE Canberra B(I).8 WM887 Fairey Firefly U.8 c/no F8942 WH182 G. Meteor T.7 WL256 G. Meteor FR.9 WB167 G. Meteor PR.10 WS841/X G. Meteor NF.14 264 Sqdn WJ342/U HP.67 Hastings C.2 47 Sqdn 5500M Hawker Hurricane XG132 Hawker Hunter F.6 VS279 P. Prentice T.1 WV563/M:D P. Provost T.1 1 FTS XK884 P. Pembroke C.1 XE808 Kirby Cadet Mk.3 631 VGS PS853 Spitfire PR.19 WZ293/831 S. Attacker 2 prob 1833 Sqdn, formerly 1831 Sqdn RNAS Stretton WG257 V. Valetta T.3 WJ919 V. Varsity T.1 173 Sqdn XB372/870:ST G. Avenger 4 1841 Sqdn RNAS Stretton KF465 NA. Harvard WX506 Neptune
ON THE AIRFIELD
VM363 Avro Anson C.19 SX927 Avro Lincoln B.2 WD373 & WD378 DHC.1 Chipmunk T.10 WG793/71 DH. Vampire FB.5 4 FTS XG678 DH. Sea Venom F.21 WL481 G. Meteor T.7 RAF Flying College VZ445, WE931, WF690 & WH361 G. Meteor F.8 all RAF Flying College WN950/F H. Hunter 257 Sqdn XF447 H. Hunter XL664 SA Pioneer
'LURKING' IN THE HANGARS
WJ907/S V. Varsity T.1 HJ994, RR299, TA698, TA702, TA723, TH977, TJ117, TJ121, TJ155 all DH.98 Mosquito WR158 DH. 100 Vampire FB.9 WJ561 Avro Anson C.19 last Anson to be built XA284 & XA311 Kirby Cadet 3 WB928 & WB986 Sedburghs
PLEASURE FLIGHTS
G-AGSH DH.89A Dragon Rapide G-AGTV & G-AJEW Auster J/1 Autocrats
ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT TAKING PART IN FLYPASTS etc
SZ560/D:L Short Sunderland GR.5 XK670 DH.106 Comet T.2 216 Sqdn WH925, WJ648, WJ733 & WJ753 4 x EE Canberra of 18 Sqdn 8 x G. Meteor of 610 Sqdn RAuxAF, Hooton G-ANBH B.175 Britannia 102 B.O.A.C. WG526, WG533 & WR958 believed to be the 3 x grey Avro Shackleton 4 x S. Attackers from RNAS Stretton XF384 H. Hunter landed after the display
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Post by davecalveley on Aug 20, 2016 16:30:27 GMT 1
The 610 Squadron Meteors in Additional Flypasts section do not show serials in opps diary....entry just shows "8 Aircraft performed a round the bases sortie for Battle of Britain day"
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Post by jetdragon on Aug 21, 2016 0:27:28 GMT 1
That's brilliant Viscount - thankyou for taking the time to type that lot in!! The serials I quoted were from photos I copied from some publication about 30 years ago which I have just discovered in the attic - I didn't come along until 1960!! To make life even more difficult I'm in Australia now so tracing my original contacts is a bit hard.
I will see if I can trace the source of them which might confuse matters even further.
Can I just ask also if the Alan Roach you quote is the guy who used to work as a despatch foreman at HSA/BAe (he had a son named Ian I recall)? If so I knew him well when I worked at Chester from '79 to '88. Also recall Frank Thomas and Jimmy Hanson and a couple of others - we were part of a very unofficial spotters club at Chester who used to convene each lunchtime at the fuel hut - or in the despatch shed if it was raining.
Thanks again
JD
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Post by Beemer on Aug 21, 2016 8:27:02 GMT 1
I hope you don't mind but I have up-dated the Air Display list with "where are they now". Many many have gone but a few remain. STATIC DISPLAY
VF547/B Auster 6 663 Sqdn AAC WFU. XK408 Auster 9. AAC w/o 18-12-1963 VM370 Avro Anson C.19 RAF 173 Sqdn. Scr. WB850 Avro Shackleton 1 240 Sqdn ? Scr. Aldergrove 1963. XB287 Blackburn Beverley Scr. Shawbury 09-1969 WN153/- B-P Balliol Sold as Scr. 23-03-1960 @ No. 22 MU Silloth WG322 DHC.1 Chipmunk T.10. Became G-ARMF. Marked as WG868. Stored at St Athan. G-ANTE DH.82 Tiger Moth. Current with G-ANTE Flyers Ltd. TH990 DH.98 Mosquito 35. Unknown. WL609 DH Vampire 9 Sold as Scr. 20-10-1958 at No. 48 MU Hawarden. WP240 DH.113 Vampire 10 (modified nose) Sold as Scr. 24-02-58 at No. 19 MU St Athan. XK627 DH.115 Vampire T.11. Scr. Pod Preserved Davidstow Airfield/Cornwall Air Museum, ex Bournemouth Air Museum VP953 DH.104 Devon C.2. Burnt Manston 11-1992. Scr. WX944 DH. Venom 3. Scr. 07-01-1958 at No. 48 MU Hawarden WX949 DH. Venom 3. Scr. 15-04-1958 at No. 27 MU Shawbury XG671 DH.Sea Venom. W/O 16-04-1958. No.393 DH.114 Heron 2C Royal Iraqi A.F. Preserved Military Museum Muthenna AFB, Baghdad. Unlikely to have survived recent conflict WJ566 EE Canberra T.4 Scr. Predannack. WT337 EE Canberra B(I).8. Scr. RAF Bruggen WT340 EE Canberra B(I).8. Sold to Peru. WM887 Fairey Firefly U.8 c/no F8942. W/O 02-11-1956 WH182 G. Meteor T.7. Scr. 06-11-1962 No.5 MU Kemble WL256 G. Meteor FR.9 For ground instruction No.20 MU Aston Down. Scr. 31-08-1959 WB167 G. Meteor PR.10 Struck off charge 09-03-1960 Seletar WS841/X G. Meteor NF.14 264 Sqdn. Struck off charge 12-03-1962 at No.389 MU Seletar, Singapore. WJ342/U HP.67 Hastings C.2 47 Sqdn. W/O 23-01-1961. Also reported RAF Catterick 1968. 5500M Hawker Hurricane IIb. (was PG499) b/u at Coleys, Feltham 12-1960 XG132 Hawker Hunter F.6. As a T.67, became 804 with Royal Air Force Oman.Then 842. Preserved Masirah, Oman. VS279 P. Prentice T.1 d/d 16/08/1948to No.1 SoTT Halton 28/03/1957 as 7401M, s.o.c. 03/02/1959 WV563/M:D P. Provost T.1 1 FTS. Scr. 12-03-1962 No. 27 MU Shawbury. XK884 P. Pembroke C.1 Became G-BNPG then SE-BKH/83007 Swedish Air Force c/s at Swedish Veteran Wing Museum. XE808 Kirby Cadet Mk.3 631 VGS. Sold in Ireland. PS853 Spitfire PR.19. Became G-MXIX/ G-RRGN Rolls Royce. Damaged East Mids 07-01-2013, repaired & re-flown WZ293/831 S. Attacker 2 1833 Sqdn? Scr. 25-03-1958 Abbotsinch. WG257 V. Valetta 3 Scr. 04-1968 at Gaydon. WJ919 V. Varsity T.1 173 Sqdn Scr Finningley 1979 XB372/870:ST G. Avenger 4 1841 Sqdn Became 21-39 Royal Netherlands Navy. Scr. 03-01-1959. KF465 NA. Harvard Sold to Avex Engineering for scrap 09-1957 WX506 Neptune. ex 51-15932. Scr.
ON THE AIRFIELD
VM363 Avro Anson C.19. Scr. SX927 Avro Lincoln B.2 Scr. WD373 DHC.1 Chipmunk T.10. Now G-BXDI/WD373/12 in RAF c/s. WD378 DHC.1 Chipmunk T.10. d/d 30/03/1951, sold as scrap 12/09/1973 at No.5 MU Kemble WG793/71 DH. Vampire 7 FTS d/d 29/08/1951, sold as scrap 29/02/1960 at No.49 MU Colerne XG678 DH. Sea Venom. W/O 21-01-1959. WL481 G. Meteor T.7 RAFFC W/O 03-06-1959. VZ445 G. Meteor F.8 RAFFC d/d 22/06/1950, to Ministry of Supply 12/03/1959 for conversion to U16 drone WE931 G. Meteor F.8 RAFFC d/d 04/04/1951, scr. 29/06/1959 at No.20 MU Aston Down to H H Bushell & Co WF690 G. Meteor F.8 RAFFC d/d 07/09/1951, scr. 04/03/1958 at No.20 MU Aston Down to Enfield Rolling Mills WH361 G. Meteor F.8 RAFFC Struck off charge 08-05-1957 at Manby. WN950/F H. Hunter 257 Sqdn Scr 1958. XF447 H. Hunter Became G-9-299 then J-723 Chilean Air Force. XL664 SA Pioneer CC.1 W/O 16-06-1961.
'LURKING' IN THE HANGARS
WJ907/S V. Varsity T.1. Scr. Norwich 1987. HJ994,TA698, TA702, TA723, TH977, TJ117, TJ121, TJ155 DH.98 Mosquitos. Of these RR299/G-ASKH survived until W/O near Barton 21-07-1996 WR158 DH. Vampire. Scr. 21-04-1961 WJ561 Avro Anson C.19 last Anson Scr. 27-06-1960 at No. 23 MU Aldergrove. XA284 Kirby Cadet 3 became G-BNPF, on rebuild at Audley End XA311 Kirby Cadet 3 became OO-ZMQ, at Weelde, Belgium. WB928 Sedburgh W/O 11-07-1963 WB986/ BGA3265 Sedburgh to WB986/BGA3265, was stored at East Kirkby, registration cancelled
PLEASURE FLIGHTS
G-AGSH DH.89A Dragon Rapide. Current, in BEA c/s. G-AGTV Auster J/1 Autocrat. c/n 1838 to Eire 22-5-62 as EI-AMK Current G-AJEW Auster J/1 Autocrat. c/n 2302 became D-EDIG 29-04-1957 then OY-DPJ 1967 Damaged by high winds and reg cancelled 1972..
ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT TAKING PART IN FLYPASTS etc
SZ560/D:L Short Sunderland GR.5. Struck off charge 15-10-1957. Scr. XK670 DH.106 Comet T.2 216 Sqdn. ex G-AMXF BOAC. Destroyed by fire RAF Lyneham 1968. WH925 EE Canberra 18 Sqdn. Scr. Catterick. WJ648 EE Canberra 18 Sqdn. Scr. Kemble. WJ733 EE Canberra 18 Sqdn. Scr. RAF Wroughton. WJ753 EE Canberra 18 Sqdn. W/O 19-06-1978. 8 x G. Meteor of 610 Sqdn RAuxAF, Hooton G-ANBH B.175 Britannia 102 B.O.A.C. to BKS Air Transport. WFU 10-1968. Scr. 09-1969 Southend. WG526 Avro Shackleton. Scr. Ballykelly 1961 WG533 Avro Shackleton. Scr. St Athan 1973 WR958 Avro Shackleton. Scr. Shawbury 1968 4 x S. Attackers from RNAS Stretton XF384 H. Hunter Scr. RAF Valley 1975.
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Post by jetdragon on Aug 21, 2016 11:32:54 GMT 1
Thanks Beemer - some interesting info there
Cheers
JD
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Post by viscount on Oct 28, 2022 11:04:23 GMT 1
It seems some while since the 'debate' on a year for the final R.A.F. Battle of Britain Air Display at Hawarden was decided. Now that I've studied and indexed the b&w photo collection gathered by the late Don Stephens, I find that not only was he one of the MGAE spotters there that weekend, but he had his camera with him! True it was a very basic Box Brownie, but what the images lack in clarity they make up for in interesting subject matter. Some images had the date on the reverse of print, some the place, some both details, others just blank and have been traced by registration and background. So, some years on from the confused start to this thread, I can now illustrate the event for which I copied out the list for a few years back and am delighted that both the Hawarden and Hooton Air Displays in September 1956 now have images and participants listed on NWAN.BATTLE OF BRITAIN AIR DISPLAY - R.A.F. HAWARDEN, 15th SEPTEMBER 1956 The Air Display was hosted by Nos 47 & 48 M.U.s and was the third and final Battle of Britain display to be held at Hawarden. Earlier ones being 15th September 1951 and 18th September 1954 (Dave Smith's 'Hawarden a Welsh Airfield 1939-1979'). The R.A.F. station closed on 31st March 1959 with No.48 MU moving to R.A.F. Sealand and the facilities being handed over to de Havilland. One aspect of aircraft operation shown on many of these images is that they were quite happy to park the aircraft on grass, even the jets. Just the Attacker is shown to have parked on metal planking. With the exception of a front-line aircraft, there was no fencing to keep the public away - just an RAF Officer stood in front of the aircraft, so they get in the way of quite a few shots as a result. HP.67 Hastings C.2 WJ342/U of 47 Sqdn with a number of other aircraft in the static beyond A delightful image of Hooton based Auster AOP.9 VF457/B in 663 R.Aux.A.F. markings. In an Aldon Ferguson book, this exact image appears, credited to Phil Butler, but places the photo at Hooton Park. Subsequently Dave Smith notes that the church tower is quite certainly that of Broughton, so the location is indeed Hawarden. XG132 Hawker Hunter F.6 DH.104 Devon C.1 VP953 in a rather plain paint-scheme, by 1956 it had already been in service for 8 years. Gloster Meteor FR.9, WL256 WB167 a Gloster Meteor PR.10 WS841/X a Gloster Meteor NF.14 Harvard KF465 on the move. The Air Britain Harvard history File states that this aircraft was with Liverpool UAS at RAF Woodvale at the time, and shortly to be retired and scrapped. Rather a short-lived type in RAF service, WN153 is a Boulton-Paul Balliol T.1, Bet the MGAE enthusiasts were pleased to see this one fresh off the production line, a Royal Iraqi Air Force DH.114 Heron 2C '393' - it was officially handed over on 29.09.56 for delivery to Iraqi. Surprisingly, there is another image of Heron 393 in the collection, as Don also took a shot of it flying at Farnborough the weekend before! P.56 Provost T.1 WV563/M:D of No.1 FTS. Another type that did not serve for long with the RAF was the Percival Prentice T.1, this one is VS279. WL609 DH.100 Vampire FR.9. The colour scheme was non-standard, the list of aircraft present produced in the MGAE magazine goes at length to describe the colours as being dark and light green with silver underneath. Mid grey and dark green would be more normal 'European' camouflage colours. DH.113 Vampire NF.10, WP240 fitted with a pointed DH.110 (Sea Vixen) style pointed nose. It was a mis-accredited photo of this particular aircraft that re-awakened the confusion debated in initial posts on this thread. Mistakes now happily sorted out and proven by us to be errors. Vickers Valetta T.3 WG257. The row of astrodomes along the cabin roof show that it was a flying classroom teaching the art of celestial navigation. VS Spitfire PR.19 PS853 would have been considered a 'common' machine by the MGAE spotters, being with the Temperature and Humidity Flight at Woodvale and a regular at Speke. Alot more about this unit on another NWAN thread. EE Canberra B(I)8, WT337 with night bomber black underside. Only the aircraft in these images to have a barrier erected around it to prevent close inspection by the public. TH990 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 WZ293/831/ST of 1833 Sqdn a Supermarine Attacker FB.2 from RNAS Stretton. While most of the static aircraft are parked on the grass, the Attacker is parked on steel planking. I would have that through that the thrust from the downward angled jet engine would have blown it all away once taxiing? XB372/870:ST of 1841 Sqdn a Grumman Avenger AS.4 also from RNAS Stretton. Two images in the collection, fairly similar though. WM887 a Fairey Firefly U.8. Capable of being flown pilotless From Coastal Command came this Lockheed Neptune MR.1 WX506. Nestling in the lee of the Neptune, DHC.1 Chipmunk T.10 WG322 There are two annon prints of this Short Sunderland GR.5, SZ560/D:L in the collection. Putting together the aircraft identification code and the Hawarden display list strongly indicate that this photo is taken as the aircraft overflew both the Hawarden and Hooton BofB Day displays in 1956. Note that the Sunderland, very much at the end of its service life is no longer armed, while its successor in the maritime patrol role, the Neptune is armed with guns in all turrets. Hawker Hurricane 5500M, formerly PG499, looking quite smart in the static park. However, when the Hawarden MUs merged and moved in the late'50s, the historic value of such aircraft was zero, so it ended up being sold as scrap. Don Stephen's came across this aircraft again in August 1960 in Coley's Yard, as shown below.
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Post by viscount on Oct 30, 2022 18:04:46 GMT 1
R.A.F. HAWARDEN BATTLE OF BRITAIN DAY 18th September 1954 (& a few others) Thanks to 'Jet Dragon' I now have a data-base listing of the participants in the 1954 Battle of Britain Air Display. (PG499) 5500M Hawker Hurricane IIC - VV919 Avro Anson C.21 - DP200 B-Z Short Sunderland - VW165 Vickers Valetta C.1 - EE521 Gloster Meteor F.4 - VW185 Vickers Valetta C.1 - G-AJWS Airspeed AS.65 Consul 5170 VX121 A Auster AOP.6 - G-AMXY DH.104 Dove 2A 4409 VZ123 A DH.100 Vampire FB.5 - HJ994 DH.98 Mosquito T.3 - VZ271 H DH.100 Vampire FB.5 - KF466 U-M NA. Harvard T.2B - VZ356 N-20 DH.100 Vampire FB.5 - KF866 NA. Harvard T.2B - VZ876 DH.100 Vampire FB.5 V0747 KK129 C-47 Dakota C.4 - WA107 DH.100 Vampire FB.5 - LX162 Airspeed Oxford 1 - WA456 DH.100 Vampire FB.5 - PH765 Avro Anson C.12 - WB818 V Avro Shackleton MR.1A - PH823 Avro Anson C.12 - WB824 Avro Shackleton MR.1A - R5175 DH.82A Tiger Moth - WB861 T Avro Shackleton MR.1A - RB139 Kirby Cadet 1 - WB944 Slingsby Sedburgh TX.1 611 RE324 Avro Lincoln B.2 - WB986 Slingsby Sedburgh TX.1 MHL013 RK989 DH.98 Mosquito NF.36 - WD130 A Avro Lincoln B.2 - RL202 DH.98 Mosquito NF.36 - WD300 U-D DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 C1/0241 RL243 DH.98 Mosquito NF.36 - WD351 U-A DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 C1/0289 RR303 DH.98 Mosquito T.3 - WD375 U-E DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 C1/0314 RS721 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WE289 DH.112 Venom FB.1 12048 TA655 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WE571 O Auster T.7 B.616 TA665 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WE612 L Auster T.7 - TA690 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WG185 P BP. P-108 Balliol T.2 - TA698 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WG207 BP. P-108 Balliol T.2 - TA702 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WH194 Gloster Meteor T.7 - TA723 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WH666 EE Canberra B.2 - TB752 F VS. Spitfire Mk.XVI - WH668 EE Canberra B.2 - TC-HUN DH.114 Heron 2B 14066 WH672 EE Canberra B.2 - TG349 DH.100 Vampire F.1 - WH718 EE Canberra B.2 - TG581 HP. Hastings C.1 - WH727 EE Canberra B.2 - TH976 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WJ821 EE Canberra PR.7 - TH977 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WJ858 EE Canberra T.4 - TH990 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WK361 U-C DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 - TJ117 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WK437 DH.112 Venom FB.1 12572 TJ121 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WK508 26 DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 C1/0544 TJ155 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 - WK649 28 DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 - TK595 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WM268 W Gloster Meteor NF.11 - TK624 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WN114 Hawker Sea Hawk 3 - TK631 DH.98 Mosquito B.35 - WR158 DH.100 Vampire FB.9 V0967 TW117 Z DH.98 Mosquito T.3 - WR257 DH.100 Vampire FB.9 - TX184 Avro Anson C.19 - WR263 DH.100 Vampire FB.9 V1038 VF344 DH.100 Vampire F.3 - WR265 DH.100 Vampire FB.9 V1033 VL354 Avro Anson C.19/2 - WR335 DH.112 Venom FB.1 12982 VM370 Avro Anson C.19 - WR365 DH.112 Venom FB.1 121083 VM634 Kirby Cadet 1 - WR791 DH.112 Venom NF.2 - VM656 Kirby Cadet 1 - WW388 Percival Provost T.1 217 VM681 Kirby Cadet 1 - WW603 Hawker Hunter F.1 - VP522 Avro Anson C.19/2 - WX205 DH.100 Vampire FB.9 - VP523 Avro Anson C.19/2 - XA164 DH.113 Sea Vampire T.22 15506 VP552 Avro Anson C.19/2 - XA284 Kirby Cadet Mk.3 826 VR294 Percival Prentice T.1 - XA311 Kirby Cadet Mk.3 853 VR922 106 Hawker Sea Fury 11 - XB810 D NA Sabre F.4 - VT621 DH.98 Mosquito T.3 - XD390 DH.115 Vampire T.11 15253 VT812 DH.100 Vampire F3 - XE820 DH.115 Vampire T.11 15369 VV217 DH.100 Vampire FB.5 - XE830 DH.115 Vampire T.11 -
HAWARDEN B of B DISPLAY, SEPTEMBER 1 9 5 4 NA F-86 Sabre F.4 XB810/D in RAF service KK129 C-47 Dakota with the RAF, according to the Air Britain book, this was with 22 MU at the time, presumably in use as a transport rather than stored. This aircraft was broken-up at Bovingdon 5.57. P.56 Provost T.1 WW388/ - WJ858 EE Canberra T.4 TH977 DH.98 Mosquito TT.35 WR158 DH.100 Vampire FB.9 TB752/F Spitfire XVI. Anyone got the 'big' Spitfire book to know what unit this one was with in 1954 and how it ended up? WN114/ -, Hawker Sea Hawk FB.3, Royal Navy DH.115 Vampire T.11 XE830 looking very pristine, likely straight off the production line. EE521 Gloster Meteor F.4, clearly with squadron insignia recently removed. Hawker Hurricane IIc, 5500M (formerly PG499) kept by the RAF MU brought outside for the display. Two somewhat similar shots. WG207 BP Balliol T.2, with Harvard KF466/U:M behind. A FEW FURTHER HAWARDEN IN THE '50s WL826 DH.113 Venom NF.3 taken on 31st May 1958. This is a shot of a church youth group visiting Hawarden, dated Saturday 10th September 1955 (but so are other shots that are clearly another date) DH.80A Puss Moth being erected outside at Hawarden. Another dated 10th September 1955. The immediate candidate is G-AAZP, but this was only purchased by the DH Sports and Athletic Club in September 1961 (as per G-INFO site). There are three images of 5500M Hurricane II. Two the same, one labeled 10th September 1955, the other (correctly) as 18th September 1956 air display. This one is also dated 10th September 1955, so may be correct, however given what looks like a static park in the background, this could well be the September 1954 display. On close examination, the Provost looks something like WV542? which does not appear in the 1954 list now that I have one, so Sept '55 could be right (or still maybe wrong!) This photo clearly of RE316/V Lincoln, is labeled on the back: Hawarden 19th September 1955. Nothing further known. HAWARDEN AIRFIELD FROM ABOVE (date unknown) I just love examining overhead photos of airfields. No date given, nor any source for the photo (although likely via Dave Smith?). In the foreground fields, outside the airfield boundary are what look like dispersed Wellingtons. Indeed, the field furthest left could be location of the scrapping field on the photos below - the slight elevation of the photographer above the very flat land is the embankment as the minor road twists and rises to cross over the railway line. The runways are a mess. So, either mid-War when laid in a hurry, or I suspect more likely during a total relaying with better foundations in the late 40s/early 50s to enable newer heavier aircraft to operate safely. Added a week later:Well I'm wrong! Dave Smith tells me that he discovered this photo on the internet and must have forwarded the location to Don. It is actually 1941 when the surfaced hard runways were under construction. The Wellingtons were dispersed just off the airfield, in an area known Cop Farm Dispersal, between leaving the Vickers factory production line and delivery to the Royal Air Force. He states the MU Mossies being scrapped are almost certainly on the area by the current entrance to the general aviation area and the Chocks Away cafe, and that he can just about recall seeing them. To MAKE YOU WEEP In 1961 and again in 1963, Don Stephens compiled the first two editions of the long running 'Wrecks and Relics' books (now at Ed.26). As a result, there are a fair number of images of wrecks, dumps, scrapyards and abandoned aircraft in his collection, some of his own and others sent into him and collected. Here are those taken in the vicinity of Hawarden and near-by, in North Wales. Unfortunately, these prints are not dated. The scrapping field at Hawarden with at least 6 Wellingtons, Codes N-A, -M, H-A and H-O can be made out on zooming in. Photos seem to be on two different occasions. Regrettably, also not dated, this would appear to be the same field at a later date, now filled with Mosquitos. Difficult to make out through the grass, but the TT.35 coded 6 could be ยทยท786? . . . . AND FINALLY ... SOME WRECKS AND RELICS ENTRY MATERIAL This is labeled 'Horsa glider in a field near Hawarden', 24th July 1953. Indeed some hangars can be made out in the background These 4 shots show several Horsa gliders converted into sheds, behind a property at Ruallt Hill on 6th August 1963.
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