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Post by digit on Nov 1, 2018 15:44:47 GMT 1
Just seen that from 08.01.19 Flickr are changing their free account details. They're introducing a maximum of 1,000 shots. If you're over 1,000 the earlier images will disappear along with their BB code links until below 1,000.
Flickr are really pushing the Pro account which gives unlimited storage and will soon cater for 10 min video uploads. Pro accounts are 49.99USD (38.64GBP at today's FX rate) per year.
Been expecting something like this since SmugMug acquired Flickr earlier this year.
Beemer's advice to caption all shots uploaded here is even more relevant now!
GC
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Post by gonetech on Nov 1, 2018 16:24:00 GMT 1
Kind of an easy way of holding people to ransom and inevitable I suppose.
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Post by radiostationx on Nov 1, 2018 17:09:21 GMT 1
The costs for implementing GDPR had to be claimed back from someone..their users..
It's Better deal to buy your own hosting space instead of "going pro" with Flickr. I pay £33 for 5 gigs , host whatever you like, website,blog,photos or any kind of data. Plus the data in your own paid storage is yours to copyright unlike flickr/Google drive or any free hosting site where they hold the rights not you.
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Post by ian531 on Nov 1, 2018 18:59:57 GMT 1
Would it be possible to have a NWAN site that we could all access?
I’m sure we have enough people to make it worthwhile
Not sure how we would manage it
Ian
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Post by spitfire250 on Nov 1, 2018 20:05:29 GMT 1
^ / \ / \ / /V\ \ / \|/ \ // v \\ / \ / \ / \ / / | | \ \ / / \ / \ \ \ / X X \ / \/ / \ / \ \/ / V \ l l
Or we could be a little creative...
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Post by Beemer on Nov 1, 2018 21:08:20 GMT 1
So FlickR are going to do a photobucket on us and delete the links to our photos leaving the Forum like Photobucket did with loads of blank spaces. I already have a FlickR Pro account so I should be OK. I have 6,500 photos on it but all are backed up on an external hard drive. It might be worthwhile taking steps and down loading your photos now from FlickR before the plug is pulled. Beemer.
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Post by radiostationx on Nov 1, 2018 21:53:48 GMT 1
Flickr are one of the largest photo hosting sites, if not the largest. If flickr are going down this road of charging customers, you can bet your life all the other free hosting sites will do the same at a slightly lower cost. The all so rans are not going to miss out on this opportunity to get space sold. Flickrs main appeal was they gave free storage up to 1TB, now they have been absorbed by smugmug the rules change. I feel sorry for those non pro account photographers who are near to the 1tb limit at the moment and thought they were safe. Imagine trying to back up that lot to a portable hard drive, it would take a while because of the clunky download & sizing options flick has. Even if you opt for maximum resolution, the downloaded photo is of lower quality than the original data uploaded due to flickrs "compression engine".
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Post by acklington on Nov 2, 2018 11:22:20 GMT 1
I'm currently about 50% over the 1,000 limit, but way short of the 1TB 'promise' (now broken).
I'm also resigned to the fact of 'free hosting' coming to an end, and I am prepared to pay. But what does concern me is having to pay every year to maintain existing photos. I won't live for ever, and when I depart all of my older photos will depart with me, leaving just the most recent 1,000. So my photo and forums 'legacy' will expire when I do, and that doesn't seem right.
It is just the 'public' face of my collection I'm talking about, as I have all of my photos double backed-up at home. Neither am I bothered about 'full resolution' hosting, which I have never used.
Has anyone any thoughts on how best to ensure that one's historic record and contribution to various forums is preserved for posterity?
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Post by viscount on Nov 2, 2018 16:52:52 GMT 1
'Ian531', maybe I'm being a bit thick and missing the point, but don't we already have a nwan site that everyone can access, both to see, and if a member {which is free) able to post, called the nwan forum. Dave Graham's former nwan web-site with a fairly extensive collection of photos, could be seen by anyone, but only he could post on it.
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Post by ian531 on Nov 2, 2018 17:39:10 GMT 1
'Ian531', maybe I'm being a bit thick and missing the point, but don't we already have a nwan site that everyone can access, both to see, and if a member {which is free) able to post, called the nwan forum. Dave Graham's former nwan web-site with a fairly extensive collection of photos, could be seen by anyone, but only he could post on it. Hi Viscount I meant a site that hosts images that we all have access to - a shared log in, that we all use Probably difficult to manage as some sort of payment would be needed Ian
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Post by radiostationx on Nov 2, 2018 20:17:08 GMT 1
It seems that free hosting of anything will be a thing of the past.
As for backing up the data on this forum, For normal web hosting to it would be quite easy to save all the online content by accessing the root folder and copying the html/public folder to a hard drive. Proboards free forum accounts dont allow backups. They do not allow access to the root folder by admins/moderators. They do have this facility if you upgrade to their paid package Forums.net. Interestingly, even if you upgrade from proboards and take up forums.net paid service, the backup/root access permissions only become active after 6 months of paid subscriptions. (So they make sure they cane you first if you are thinking of moving your forum or data elsewhere)
There are paid products around that would do the job of giving access to data storage for multiple users, dropbox business is one. A shared folder in the business package would be like a global flickr account for all members, each having access to the folder with their own username and password. From this folder, embed image links can be generated just like flickr.
Keeping things in tact for posterity is a very valid point but very hard to predict at this stage. At the moment this forum relies totally on Proboards with no backups possible. With 3.5 million forums worldwide,In 10 yrs they could be the next Google or on the other hand they could be the next AOL,Geocities or Netscape.
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Post by radiostationx on Nov 4, 2018 14:29:48 GMT 1
Slightly off topic as not directly related to flickr, Following the recent post about Malaga Museum by CloudWarrior (Nice Photos btw !), I looked at other past visits made by NWAN members. I noticed that images hosted by Photobucket now feature their own custom watermark which spoils things slightly, done some time after uploading I think. I have not noticed this before. If any members have noticed, when did this start ? Heres a visit from viscount from 2016, note the watermarks, they take up about 5% of the viewable area. derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/20840/malaga-late-february-2016The watermarks do not seem to vary in position or size, not what I would call discrete by any means. This could disturb / spoil things if photographers have interesting content in lower left area of the frame. I know photobucket was very popular a few years back with NWAN, it may be worth checking your posts, especially for nostalgia section. Any photo is better than no photo, and it seems as if Photobucket thought long and hard about their frankly outrageous behaviour/blanket removal policy earlier in the year & lowered the ransom demand to a spot of free advertising for themselves instead. After all, Photobucket hosted photos appear on many thousands of forums like this one. I wonder if this is the start of something, lets see if smugmug do the same to our free flickr content. Given the commercial opportunity and the free account limitations announced recently, I cant see them settling for a line of text below each "freely hosted" image. Time will tell.
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Post by John Jones on Nov 4, 2018 15:44:37 GMT 1
Just checked from photos 2012 John J
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Post by radiostationx on Nov 4, 2018 16:12:31 GMT 1
"Photobucket hosts over 30 million images for free every day! In order to keep our basic hosting services absolutely free for all members, we overlay a discreet “proudly hosted on Photobucket” watermark on all images that are displayed by our free members on sites other than photobucket.com.
By watermarking images, we are able to reduce our brand marketing expenses to offset our bandwidth costs. Everyone wins!
If you prefer your images to remain watermark-free, we invite you to upgrade to one of our affordable plans that includes enhanced hosting services starting at $4.03/month (billed annually)."
I.O.W You get Nowt for free. Oh on the page about the payment plans, They state "compression free" in the small print (after payment), Photobucket, please accept my next statement in the true spirit it is given, compression free my a*se ! All hosting uses some form of compression as they have to index the data, data connot be retrieved if it isnt indexed, and indexing it compresses it. Period.
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Post by viscount on Nov 4, 2018 20:55:34 GMT 1
When Photobucket 'turned back-on' the deleted images after their holding photographers to ransom 'black-out' of all 'free' accounts, they did say that they would only be on display again for a limited period. Does this 'self-advertising' logo mean that they will be back for a longer duration?
Personally the new logo means two things: one, the photos are still there on forums for all to see etc and two, with a large watermark far fewer people will be inclined to copy and paste into their own 'collections' of images.
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