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Post by crumb on Jul 17, 2019 21:04:47 GMT 1
Tuesday 23/7 at 8pm, 3 episodes in total.https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00071qg
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 14:28:39 GMT 1
So what were peoples' opinions of this? Personally, I thought it was totally cringeworthy. Peter Snow behaved as though he'd done a line of coke before the cameras rolled and Andi Peters, who initially claimed to have been a plane spotter, couldn't tell the difference between a 737 and a 727! I gather they initially wanted to do it from Heathrow. (Of course! - the media seem to think it's the only airport in the UK worthy of being on the telly), but LHR refused. The choice of EMA at that time of night was hardly inspired, either. It's just about the quietest time, as the daytime traffic winds down, before the freighters begin to arrive. Why not the AVP at Manchester? I gather they're at LCY tonight, which hopefully will be busier. I wonder if they'll get anyone to explain five degree approaches? One person fronting the show, surrounded by a few experts in various fields would have been much better. Cat Burton (once of Cambrian Airways) did a good job, but wasn't used to the extent of her capabilities. Too much showboating by the other two. And one person in the tower on nights? I think not! What about calls of nature, or if they feel unwell? There must surely be an assistant there somewhere. When I worked there - and it wasn't as busy then - there were always three people in the tower at all times. I got to thinking that if you brought on a couple of people who had never seen a football match in their lives, the commentary would be just as ridiculous. Why is that guy standing in the netting when the others are all running around? Why doesn't the guy in black kick the ball? The two guys running up and down the sides - why do they stop and wave the flags? Which team do they support, because neither team are wearing red and yellow? The only useful thing I learned last night was that it is possible to open an Argosy door remotely. Whenever I was involved with the ABC ones, you always had to crank the handle to get the door open - maybe they were just permanently u/s!
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Post by vanguard on Jul 24, 2019 16:18:19 GMT 1
Another point about the retired 747 pilot,while looking at a Emirates 777 photo,over the top went a jet with twin trails,possible a Norwegian 737-800,she said "either 747 or a 380 four engined" nil point for aircraft spotting, looking for improvement in no.2 & 3 episodes Regards to the doors ( back & front) on the Argosy i would say a good 5mins to "crank open" the doors
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 17:45:22 GMT 1
Another point about the retired 747 pilot,while looking at a Emirates 777 photo,over the top went a jet with twin trails,possible a Norwegian 737-800,she said "either 747 or a 380 four engined" nil point for aircraft spotting, looking for improvement in no.2 & 3 episodes Regards to the doors ( back & front) on the Argosy i would say a good 5mins to "crank open" the doors Yes, I'd agree with that vanguard - hard work, too!
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Post by bulldog on Jul 24, 2019 20:44:20 GMT 1
Absolutely awful, wasted opportunity. Very sad man who collects puke bags. He really needs a life,
As was said Peter Snow looked like a doddery old demented fool
Turned off before the end.
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Post by ian531 on Jul 24, 2019 21:23:57 GMT 1
Tonight’s wasn’t much better
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Post by ronturner on Jul 25, 2019 6:55:59 GMT 1
I'm glad I missed it then!
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Post by davecalveley on Jul 25, 2019 9:14:50 GMT 1
Andi Peters was going to look for "lickle wickle "aeroplanes last night..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 9:46:19 GMT 1
I'm not sure where heading along the right track on this one guys. Having watched both programs I think this is aimed at encouraging people to get involved in plane spotting and not targeting the existing spotter. When viewed in this perspective it's a good little program, as anything that encourages others to get involved in our hobby can only be a good thing. Having began plane spotting in the Cambrian Airways era I was amazed to see a former Cambrian Airways pilot presenting almost 50 years on. She doesn't appear to be a spotter herself (having got one wrong, which being blared could be forgiven for) but is very knowledgeable in other areas of aviation and good at passing that knowledge on.
That's my view of the program and I'm looking forward to tonight's episode which is dealing with the military side.
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Post by vanguard on Jul 25, 2019 10:24:36 GMT 1
The best thing about"Planespotting Live" is Arthur Williams the wheelchair presenter,a while back(maybe less than six mounths) he did a documentary about airfeilds/strips around the UK flying in his Piper Cub,the one he showed in program 2,it was very good. That documentary puts "Planespotting Live" way down in my opinion,well done Arthur Williams as he knows what he is talking about. Possibley #3 will be better as some of the program is from RAF Coningsby as iv'e seen a photo of Andy Peters in front of a Typhoon in its hardend shelter
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Post by Speedy on Jul 25, 2019 12:27:36 GMT 1
Hello All, I think it is a great series. It covers the hobby we all love and we have been waiting for this sort of programme for a long time. It does not really matter if it is photography, number crunching, modelling or memorabilia collecting you are into it has it all. I enjoyed the clip about the guy who had flown on all the rare aircraft in exotic places. How lucky was he!! Mind you he needs his head testing to go back to Syria three times. I am not surprised he was pulled to one side for a chat!
The presenters being rubbish is part of the entertainment! What a wacky bunch they have cast there. Some of the enthusiasts when getting interviewed were very knowledgeable and it showed with no nerves while speaking on camera and how confident they are speaking live on TV. The current bunch of professional presenters should take note.
The presenter’s depth of knowledge on the subject is part of the entertainment. We all must admit whilst watching over the last two nights sat on our couches how we have enjoyed answering the questions and identifying the aircraft quicker and more correctly than the presenters themselves. Picture the scene last night. I was sat on the couch ensuring the other half watches the programme with me and being a clever clogs shouting all the answers out. The only thing she says is “Look at the size of her hands” I looked sideways and did not comment. Again “Why is she wearing a boiler suit all the time” “Doesn’t that old man look my mate’s dad”. Then the Saab landed at London City, I said “Loganair Saab from IOM” then looked sideways and gave a knowing wink to the wife. Seconds later the presenter confirmed my comments!! She said how did I know that! Another wink given. How many of us have done that over the two nights? I am sure I am not the only one. She now thinks the programme is a repeat and I cheated….
I thought we would have had some of our contributors’ photos appear on the programme. I think it would be a good idea if some of our fantastic photos were used in the programme.
That’s my tuppence worth (Viscount you can now mark my essay for grammar and spelling mistakes only joking!!) Paul
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Post by optimum1878 on Jul 25, 2019 14:02:32 GMT 1
There is more to liking aircraft than just jotting numbers down and photos,I just like seeing these metal birds take to the air and fly,not everybody is an expert on what is what,it is a programme about the machines we all love,no matter what way you like them.
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Post by wadoki on Jul 25, 2019 15:38:24 GMT 1
I'm trying to give a reasonable,objective revue,and.......it wasn't ALL bad! Yes Peters and Snow were dreadful.This may be indicative of falling standards at the BBC in general.It is only when you know something about a subject that you realise how much rubbish is broadcast by this once revered institution. However,Arthur Williams,Zoe Laughlin and the lady ex BA pilot were very good. .....and they did have some bad luck. Myrtle Ave is a waste of time on easterlies. And,now they have packed up and left....an An-124 goes into EMA this afternoon.That would have made for some nice TV
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Post by ronturner on Jul 25, 2019 17:40:05 GMT 1
Good point Wadoki. Yes, when you know something about a subject and you see trash in the media, its impossible to know the truth about any subject from these sources. If the established media sources were not bad enough, we now have Facebook and twitter spouting true or false every second of the day. On another section of NWAN we hear the sad news of an accident in the Alps. This was at first confidently reported in the media as two aeroplanes that collided. It was presented as fact, not conjecture, until later it turned out not to be true.
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Jul 25, 2019 20:10:03 GMT 1
I believe that many would welcome a programme on air-spotting and aviation in general. What is irritating with this programme is the hoorah-henry-jolly-hockeysticks style of presentation. The false bravado and over-enthusiastic presentation of quite trivial items is a complete switch-off. Oh for someone like Simon Calder who knows what he is talking about.
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