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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 11:44:59 GMT 1
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Post by gonetech on Aug 15, 2019 18:29:43 GMT 1
G-OMYA is an A320. Pretty sure the crash airframe never flew for TCX/MYT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 19:26:53 GMT 1
G-OMYA is an A320. Pretty sure the crash airframe never flew for TCX/MYT I got my information from "Plane spotters" and a photo search of the web for G-OMYA. Looks like "Plane spotters" got it wrong. It's mentioned in "Airfleets" as belonging to this airframe but was never taken up, I can only assume MyTravel cancelled the order in favour of the A320. I've looked again at the photos of YA and your right it's definitely of an A320. I've now removed the reference to YA from my original post, sorry for any confusion this may have caused. A subsequent search for this airframe revealed it has visited Liverpool as TC-KTD and I have inserted a reference to that instead. Many thanks gonetech for pointing this error out. www.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A321/VQ-BOZ-Ural-Airlines/rqOJtDEAwww.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a321-2117.htm
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 22:02:26 GMT 1
Zhukovsky has only recently (2016) opened as an international airport. Most of us will know that it was the base of the Gromov Research Institute and about as top-secret as you can get. Of course nowadays it's used for the Moscow Air Show and we took the 125 there in 1991. Bizarrely, we had to clear customs at Sheremetyevo where, for about $50, we were able to purchase the 'plates' (aeronautical charts), which previously had been 'unavailable', for the airfield. Zhukovsky (also known as Ramenskoye - named after the nearest village) has one of the longest runways anywhere. The main runway is 15,000ft long and rather like LPL has the tower on the other side of the airfield from the main buildings. I was told that this was so that they could see the whole of the runway when test flying was taking place. The official reason for opening Zhukovsky to commercial aviation is to relieve the pressure on the other three airports, but because it was set up in the era of the Soviet Union, it is not particularly easy to reach. Even on air show days, the only way you can reach it by public transport is to get the 'elektrishka' stopping train from Moscow and then there was a shuttle bus service from the nearest station. A taxi costs about £30 and takes a minimum of an hour to reach the city centre. From an operational point of view, it's a bit of a nightmare. It is 25 miles SE of Moscow in what is clearly a very agricultural area, hence the cornfield. It is also subject to frequent foggy days; doubtless the fact that the Moscow River runs very close to the main runway is a contributory factor. Sounds like the perfect recipe for bird life, doesn't it, yet there is no mention of bird activity on the plates. The birds were described in the article I read as seagulls, but Moscow is a long way from the sea, so I imagine they were just the standard ubiquitous variety. link
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Post by ronturner on Aug 16, 2019 6:50:28 GMT 1
What a remarkably good outcome. My first reaction is to think this was airmanship and piloting of the highest standard, and testament to the ruggedness of the airframe. NB This machine would have been full of fuel at the time.
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Post by ronturner on Aug 17, 2019 8:06:46 GMT 1
Interesting, isn't it. that this successful outcome of an accident, and a heroic one too, is worthy of almost nothing in the press, other than the initial reports. Had it been less successful we would still be hearing about it, every hour on the hour on all channels, and god forbid if it had been a 737.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 9:36:28 GMT 1
Interesting, isn't it. that this successful outcome of an accident, and a heroic one too, is worthy of almost nothing in the press, other than the initial reports. Had it been less successful we would still be hearing about it, every hour on the hour on all channels, and god forbid if it had been a 737. Very true, Ron. Today's media is not interested in good news stories. The amount of scaremongering in the British press these days is ridiculous.
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Post by Airbus A346 on Aug 20, 2019 11:30:57 GMT 1
doubtless the fact that the Moscow River runs very close to the main runway is a contributory factor. Sounds like the perfect recipe for bird life, doesn't it, yet there is no mention of bird activity on the plates. The birds were described in the article I read as seagulls, but Moscow is a long way from the sea, so I imagine they were just the standard ubiquitous variety.
........ one report has suggested the seagulls were attracted to a nearby illegal rubbish tip - we are plagued with seagulls in Widnes scavenging from the waste
recycling plants.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 13:13:24 GMT 1
doubtless the fact that the Moscow River runs very close to the main runway is a contributory factor. Sounds like the perfect recipe for bird life, doesn't it, yet there is no mention of bird activity on the plates. The birds were described in the article I read as seagulls, but Moscow is a long way from the sea, so I imagine they were just the standard ubiquitous variety. ........ one report has suggested the seagulls were attracted to a nearby illegal rubbish tip - we are plagued with seagulls in Widnes scavenging from the waste recycling plants.
Yes, it wouldn't surprise me at all. Once you reach Ramenskoye you really are in rural Russia and it's another world. In rural areas, there is no rubbish collection system, so people just dump stuff by the side of the road. The fact that the pilot was so skilful in bringing the aircraft down safely and that there were no injuries probably means that there will be little done about it. When Bykovo (which was just a few miles away) was open, it had a 7,500ft runway and operated regional flights. The terminal building was totally Soviet era, (I once watched a member of staff chase a mouse out of the cafe kitchen with a broom), but with a runway that length it was a perfectly serviceable airport, but the developers had long had their eye on it. It's close to a railway station and a major road, so it ticks all the boxes.
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Post by bulldog on Aug 23, 2019 17:47:32 GMT 1
Just been reading on flight global that all consumables have been removed, and ift is to be cut up for scrap.
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