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Post by dovermire on Jun 3, 2012 18:28:46 GMT 1
Couple of shots taken this afternoon at the First depot, Bryn, Wigan, no info. Dave O
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 15:45:50 GMT 1
Nice shots Dave,
These are interesting in that as far as I know they may not actually be owned by First. If I'm correct they form part of an order for 68 hybrid Optare Versas placed by the former Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive now known as 'Transport for Greater Manchester' (TGM). If theses do form part of that order, First simply operate them on TGM's behalf.
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Post by johnoakes on Jun 4, 2012 16:58:17 GMT 1
Why must we follow the yankee rules of yellow for school buses-do we no longer think for ourseves on these things-yellow taxis next--with a cescent insert of course--don't miss it at all
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Post by maverick on Jun 4, 2012 19:17:42 GMT 1
Yes, lets have them a nice grey colour so they don't stand out..
We could re-paint the rescue helicopters too - make them really stand out in the Scottish Valleys better.
KH
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Post by Biggles on Jun 5, 2012 0:12:20 GMT 1
The idea is that are noticeable, perhaps Day-glo Pink would be preferred.
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Post by johnoakes on Jun 5, 2012 7:52:20 GMT 1
the suggestion was that yellow is not the only stand out colour--do we have no imagination or ideas of our own? I like battleship grey--who said scouse humour was dead LOL. We would do better to remember our individuality and not spend too much time spent watching yankee soaps--we could use cream with a bright stripe--why not--at least its original and could be British not the standard imposed via the idiot box on the world by the good old us of a. Battleship grey--not bad --pity we have no battleships,or aircraft carriers or trains orBritish owned motor industry etc. LOL then we could use it.You don' t have a plentiful supply do you?LOL My Dad once had a Standard Vanguard in gloss Battleship grey--happy days.
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Post by speedbird1960 on Jun 5, 2012 10:13:11 GMT 1
Yellow is used for safety reasons, as it is the most visible colour in poor visibility. ( If you have a dark hallway yellow is the recommended colour as it reflect's the most light, as in the Buttercup trick.)
When BT painted their Vans a few years back there was an increase in their vehicles being involved in accidents especially in fog because they became invisible.
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Post by ronturner on Jun 5, 2012 12:02:27 GMT 1
Until John mentioned it, I never thought of the colour as anything but rather pleasing and ideal for a school bus. Yes, it's a pity it seems to follow an American idea. Our American friends do not have a monopoly on good ideas, but the bus thing is certainly one of them. They are instantly recognisable and overtake one of them when stopped at your peril A good British solution might have been to use dayglo yellow, so it would align with policemen, ambulance men, traffic wardens, park keepers, bin men and airport workers. (order of priority not indicative)
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Post by johnoakes on Jun 5, 2012 13:17:53 GMT 1
The US school buses are standardised and regulated-they have special windows to allow exit in an emergency and must be able to be evacuated in a specific short time. As an ex teachere and ex bus conductor I applaud the way they do this--but do we HAVE to have US yellow was my only point. As usual Ron makes a sensible point. Still think battleship grey is a good one.LOL but not for school buses--cream with a broad dayglow band would get it for me but hey point made--end of rant. I will just go back to watching president Coco I of France as my buddies call him.And that's nothing to do with perfume.LOL Where were the buses made by the way?Not at Leyland I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 19:08:54 GMT 1
Where were the buses made by the way?Not at Leyland I guess. No, they don't make that pile of junk anymore. These are powered by the Mercedes-Benz OM904LA 130kW, Euro 5 diesel engine and were built by Optare in their brand new state of the art facility at 'Sherburn in Elmet', Yorkshire - not far from Selby. On a safety note these are the first school buses ever to be built that fully meet R66 roll-over regulations. I agree about the colour and would prefer not to see it used except possibly for primary/junior schools. I think teenagers would see it as being humiliating and smacking off adult (we know whats best for you) dictation and therefore counter productive. For them I would welcome varying colours. Having said that I would like to see the American style flashing light system adopted here for all school buses regardless of colour and passengers age.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 20:55:55 GMT 1
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Post by speedbird1960 on Jun 5, 2012 21:45:13 GMT 1
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Post by speedbird1960 on Jun 5, 2012 21:57:18 GMT 1
Your welcome Ste, i see those Napier Point buses at the daughters Majorettes, there was one at Frodsham Community Centre last week. Optare have got £13 Million worth of orders for the Diesel Electric Buses, including School buses - 16 x Tempo 12m . www.optare.com/pr_13_05_10.htm
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Post by davecalveley on Jun 5, 2012 21:57:39 GMT 1
Can anyone explain why the sign above the door is a very strange mixture of upper and lower case letters i.e. ....WeLCOme aBOaRD ...... probably someone with a degree paid thousands for thinking this one up? regards Dave
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