Idiot's in Dungeon Lane

[Deleted]

This photo was taken at 12.06 on Sat 4th May.These people had their children sat on the roof of the car directly under the flight path and never moved for approx 1 hour. Police nowhere to be seen, surely had they been seen by the Airport Security they should have been reported.I hate to think what would have been the result if any aircraft had got problems when landing.Have some people no sense at all.

[LPL]

Why didnt any of the others there report it either?

[owensy]

I saw this and gave them a stare as I drove past (that's my antenna with mickey mouse in the bottom left).

[ezylpl]

What's happening with the closing off of dungeon lane? Haven't heard much lately

[Beemer]

May 4, 2013 17:51:16 GMT 1 ezylpl said:

What's happening with the closing off of dungeon lane? Haven't heard much lately

There seemed to be a bit of activity on that front yesterday, (well I assume it was) with four blokes in four cars doing a lot of pointing and discussing about Baileys Lane and the mound. I should have asked. Regards Beemer.

[Biggles]

What is wrong with stopping and pointing out the danger to this couple and suggesting they move for the safety of their children.
It really stings when head and undercarriage collide.

[mictheslik]

Whilst I agree that they should not let their children sit in a potentially dangerous place, if someone is fully aware of the risk and chooses to stand there is there really a problem? I've stood there to take photos and at similar places at Brize Norton and Yeovilton. I know that an undershooting aircraft wouldn't be good for me, but accept that that's a low risk, and I'd be paying sufficient attention to the approach that I might recognise this and leg it....

.mic

[Biggles]

They have double yellow lines in place, which I presume can be enforced ? Most car drivers understand there purpose. The traffic control lights also should be a clue.
I would add I have a particular concern as my uncle landed his Lancaster on a vehicle at RAF Shawbury in a similar parking area.It haunted his flying career for ever.

[mictheslik]

Ah OK...should have added I don't park a car there

.mic

[clifftop]

There are double yellow lines AND "No Stopping" signs at both ends of that stretch of road. Whilst the safety of those observers might be in little danger, I have always wondered if the ILS signal (which I believe radiates from an antenna situated just inside the fence) could be affected by the presence of a vehicle. Could it deflect the ILS signal, hence giving a pilot a wrong approach path?

[mictheslik]

No chance of affecting the ILS. The 27 ILS is transmitted from the antenna at the 09 end and vice versa. if there was any chance of interference no vehicles would be allowed past whether stationary or not at any time.

.mic

[maverick]

May 7, 2013 12:02:40 GMT 1 @carmedic said:

I once saw someone parked in the same place and a police car drove past them and never bothered to stop and speak to them.

When the police car came back from the direction of the tower, I flagged them down and pointed out the dangers of a vehicle being parked directly under the flightpath, but he didn't seem intrested at all, but did upon my insistance, go and ask the occupants of the car to move.

Good for you insisting - however, my own view is that these are morons (the people parked, not the Police.. well..) and if they are killed in spectacular style by an undershooting a/c so be it. Unfortunately, the more likely outcome is that they would sue someone, anyone, for their human rights being infringed.

The most effective strategy would be to photo these morons and put them up on a website - these people hate their photos being taken. However, that would put all photographers around there at risk from threatened violence - something I've encountered when I helped our local school stop parents parking on the zig-zags by photographing evidence. Funnily enough, the Police weren't interested in that problem either.

[Barfluer]

My brother in law was a lollipop man at a school in skem all he got was aggro from the parents about parking on yellow lines
and zig zags the school and police were not borthered.

[Biggles]

Sadly the list of things the Police are NOT interested in Grows with every passing minute.

Yellow Line Enforcement is usually passed to civilian Traffic Enforcement People.

Parking on a Pavement is seemingly ignored by everyone, as is cycling on anything other than the road.

I recently 4am, reported a house alarm activation to the local Police who told me they didn`t attend those anymore, unless there was "something suspicious" ERR HELLO 4am ?

Don`t start me on Lolipop people who seem to help everyone cross the road even at Pelican light assisted places, everyone that is except children.

[ronturner]

Call me an old cynic, but in my view the police are only interested in anything which results in a fine (Tax). Its becoming the same in France too.
Unlike in France, where the police were always viewed with suspicion, (The Gendarmerie is actually a military regiment, like the army,) I always regarded the British Police as being, on the whole, helpful. Not any more; and I believe there are millions of regular upstanding citizens like me.

Footnote about the system in France for those interested.

Police Nationale Found mainly in cities and large towns. Armed

Police Municipal. Under the control of the local Mayor. Usually not armed. Lower level crime, crowd control for parades and events and tax collection such as parking where you are not supposed to.

Gendarmerie (Gens, (people) avec arms.) Higher level crimes and general policing of all rural areas.

CRS (Compagnies Républicaines de Sécurité)
The riot police. You do not mess with these guys. In the summer, when students are away from university the CRS carry out life guard duties on the beaches. You don't mess......when they say "Out of the water" you get out.
CRS do other tough guy jobs such as mountain rescue.