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Post by bulldog on Mar 23, 2018 9:41:43 GMT 1
Would xlr handle aircraft like the gain jet 757?
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Post by Beemer on Mar 23, 2018 10:01:42 GMT 1
Bulldog.they were handling Gainjet's B737 SX-ATF at BHX on Sunday 18th as my photo shows. Beemer.
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Post by bulldog on Mar 23, 2018 11:20:58 GMT 1
So they do handle big stuff, did they handle it at Liverpool?
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Post by vanguard on Mar 23, 2018 11:59:51 GMT 1
So they do handle big stuff, did they handle it at Liverpool? Hi Bulldog,my thoughts would be,they might handle the paper work for 757 size aircraft but they might get some one like Swissport to do the actual handling of the a/c ie.steps,baggage belts and power plus the staff to do the work,it could be the same with B737 BBJ's and Airbus CBJ's.
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Post by bulldog on Mar 23, 2018 13:24:07 GMT 1
I had not thought of who would own the "infrastructure" to handle stuff. Interesting point
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Post by northbynorthwest on Apr 16, 2018 14:31:01 GMT 1
With XLR now established, I am curious as to how they are doing. I presume that they would have handled some of the Grand National traffic. Also, I was wondering whether any light singles, twins and/or light business jets or helicopters that they handle will be parked on the main ramp versus on the General Aviation ramp.
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Post by Blue Sky on Apr 16, 2018 23:16:34 GMT 1
I applied to XLR to handle my group owned PA28 Warrior for me to fly in to LPL end of May but was told they can't accept anything under 3 tonnes. Not sure why they have a restriction.
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Post by andyh on Apr 16, 2018 23:33:27 GMT 1
I applied to XLR to handle my group owned PA28 Warrior for me to fly in to LPL end of May but was told they can't accept anything under 3 tonnes. Not sure why they have a restriction. Presumably to help protect the existing FBO to some degree?
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Post by viscount on Apr 17, 2018 8:21:30 GMT 1
I would have thought it more likely to do with location and the cost of parking light aircraft on the main apron than a conspiracy to limit the activities of a newcomer. I can think of no reason why the Airport Company would want to 'protect' existing businesses by imposing restrictions on newcomers - indeed my impression of the Airport industry is that they usually aim to attract new businesses with favourable rate deals.
Actually, it could more likely simply be due to XLR company policy. They are a VIP, executive jet, orientated handling company from their website content offering a bespoke service to customers, rather than 'penny conscious' GA pilots and light aircraft. No, I think the answer is all to do with image, yields and target customer groups as determined by XLR management.
As a matter of interest, from someone who hasn't a clue how much his car weighs, let alone an aeroplane - where does 3 tonnes come in terms of singles/twins and biz-jets?
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Post by andyh on Apr 17, 2018 9:32:08 GMT 1
And most businesses would prefer to grow by adding capability in under served areas rather than pursuing more of the same, which risks the viability of existing provision (unless, of course there are performance issues with that provision). I'm not sure that falls in to the category of "conspiracy"!
In terms of your question re weights, a quick trawl of the t'internet shows that a King Air 90 is a little over 3 tonnes.
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Post by bulldog on Apr 17, 2018 15:14:31 GMT 1
Well don't know what car you've got out there Brian but a new Jag E Pace diesel ( devils car nowadays) weights 1760kg. So no point taking that to XLR either.
Assuming XLR are actively handling aircraft do they park on Kilo or by XLR on the main apron. Noticed on a photo of I think a Citation the other day it appears that it had been pushed back off Kilo so its main wheels were on the grass, I know this used to happen but after all recent rain I would have thought the grass would be too soft.
So if something is handled by XLR and it parks up on kilo would that mean that the pax would be transferred to their facility.
Now I know I risk being inundated with the standard wrath if you say anything that has not got rose tinted specs on about the airport, but I drove down to have a look and XLR and did not think the facility looks very impressive. May well be lovely inside, however from the front it still looks like a portacabin to me, but early days, fingers crossed it is a success.
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Post by northbynorthwest on Apr 19, 2018 6:51:07 GMT 1
Looking at the XLR website, they are certainly going after the corporate and executive jet market. Certainly Liverpool appears to receive a healthy number of exec jets, but enough to warrant two FBO’s? I suppose there might be a slight uptick in exec jets that may come to Liverpool versus Manchester or Hawarden now, but I doubt if it would be a dramatic increase. It would depend on the level of service provided by XLR.
I would have assumed that any corporate jets handled by XLR would park in the area by their terminal in the main apron. When I was writing the question about them a couple of days ago, I was assuming that they would handle light twins and singles as well, but this is obviously not the case now.
Ravenair must use their vans to transport crew and pilots for larger aircraft to/from their FBO office via airside, which must involve driving down the parallel taxiway with arrangement with ATC and the Airport Authorities. If XLR do not need to do this for the lighter exec jets, it would be beneficial to all concerned.
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Post by eye2eye5 on Jun 14, 2019 13:39:50 GMT 1
XLR tweeted the following yesterday: VIP clients will soon enjoy a completely seamless start to their journey at #XLRLiverpool when our brand new private security facility is operational enabling passengers to check in swiftly & relax in our VIP lounge before their private flight from LPL_Airport. Good to see further commitment by XLR to LJLA and an enhanced offering for executive jet operators.
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Post by davel on Jun 15, 2019 8:26:31 GMT 1
We visited the XLR offices just after they opened and found them to be very good inside with fittings that were apt for a business lounge. They were already saying that they were going to build a security building next to their offices and it looks like they have done it but I haven't been down that end recently. They are portacabins but of a higher spec than normal, just like the new admin office for LJLA just opened (Aviation House), and I think the airport management must have been impressed by XLRs building.
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Post by lpltcx on Jun 15, 2019 10:41:44 GMT 1
Who going in the new building currently being built next to ravenair? I thought who’s was for XLR?
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