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Post by Biggles on Apr 20, 2010 21:31:50 GMT 1
You may well be right, QTR001 holding at fl.lv400 of NE coast now may all be waiting for the 22.00 airport opening mentioned earlier ?
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Post by Beemer on Apr 21, 2010 7:03:45 GMT 1
Just seen my first contrail since the the ash problem. East of Runcorn heading South @ 07:00hrs., 21-04-10 No idea what!
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Apr 21, 2010 7:56:49 GMT 1
That was Willy Walsh doing a personal check. No aeroplane - just Willy Walsh.
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Post by tonyspeke on May 3, 2010 18:35:31 GMT 1
The ash is blowing back. Irish air space may be closed this evening.
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Post by G-PHIL on May 3, 2010 18:45:08 GMT 1
Just been on the news, there is more Volcanic Ash entering Irish Airspace and that Dublin and Shannon might be affected, and therefore it could affect Liverpool and Manchester Airports.
Phil
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Post by tonyspeke on May 3, 2010 22:45:29 GMT 1
The late Dublin flight has been allowed to depart. Let's hope there is no more serious disruption.
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Post by chrisevo on May 4, 2010 6:58:05 GMT 1
I have got a flight to Dublin on Friday about 4.00 pm , will the flight be cancelled or will it go ahead?
But if it was to be cancelled I wouldn't get a refund because the airlines class it as an act of God!
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Post by viscount on May 4, 2010 9:52:50 GMT 1
Chrisevo,
I wouldn't worry too much yet, Friday is still days off, much can and will, change in that time regarding ash cloud airspace closures etc. Decisions seem to be made twice daily and extend never more than 24 hours ahead, so sit tight for an unpredictable few days.
If you have a time sensitive reason for being in Dublin, best look at alternative travel, just in case. Otherwise, once your travel has been cancelled by Ryanair, you can always transfer your booking to later in the year with them. For more information regarding refunds look on the Ryanair website, not just the small print section but also the press release section, as I know they changed their own rules recently.
Others with recent experience of cancelled flights hopefully will offer information and advice more specific than my general reply.
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Post by tonyspeke on May 4, 2010 22:35:06 GMT 1
Scottish airspace is to be closed in the morning, including Glaggow and Edinburgh airports.
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Post by Biggles on May 5, 2010 20:44:51 GMT 1
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Post by tonyspeke on May 6, 2010 6:10:09 GMT 1
The all clear has now been called. All should be back to normal - for now.
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Post by Biggles on May 6, 2010 18:11:30 GMT 1
for now being the operative word, the press and aviation "experts! are already saying that these disruptions could run into the summer schedules ? What I don`t quite understand whilst looking at the ash cloud on the overlay shown on Virtuel Radar is that the UK and Eire seem to be getting off pretty lightly compared to other northern European and Scandanavian countries. Anyone else noticed the discrepancy in information and weather maps ?
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Post by viscount on May 6, 2010 19:49:27 GMT 1
Weather maps generally provide just lower level/surface conditions. The westerly jetstream/lower-upper level airflow is not shown on tv/web/newspaper etc weather maps, yet is the wind initially responsible for carrying much of the ash towards Scandinavia, before the ash gradually descends into the northerly and easterly lower level winds which have dominated the past fortnight. While even this explaination is an over simplification of very complex atmospheric interaction, it may help explain why the ash cloud has such an extensive spread over Europe - often at odds with the surface winds, which only serve to spread it further.
Oddly, while away in Scotland, the only morning that there was a dew deposited visible grey thin layer of ash on the car (washed evening previously), was 36 hours after Scottish airspace was reopenned!
Finally, if this light fine gritty ash poses such a threat to aircraft engines (and after the BA Jumbo incident over Java is known to be a very real risk), why is sandstorm sand from the Sahara blown up over Europe by southerlies in summer high pressure conditions, which is hard silica grit does not ground aviation ?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2010 18:52:57 GMT 1
Finally, if this light fine gritty ash poses such a threat to aircraft engines (and after the BA Jumbo incident over Java is known to be a very real risk), why is sandstorm sand from the Sahara blown up over Europe by southerlies in summer high pressure conditions, which is hard silica grit does not ground aviation ? Not sure about that one but according to the experts, volcanic ash contains tiny glass crystals that melt in the heat of a jet engine. If enough are taken in the resulting molten mixture clogs up the engine. I can only assume silica grit has a higher melting point than volcanic ash.
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Post by kevmul on May 8, 2010 11:26:58 GMT 1
Spanish National Airport Management Agency has closed 15 airports in northern Spain. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8669610.stmA number of flights from LJLA have been cancelled including Faro, Alicante and the Canary Isles; presumably this is related.
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