|
Post by viscount on Oct 15, 2018 10:35:28 GMT 1
WHAT DO TOULOUSE, EDINBURGH and MALAGA AIRPORTS HAVE IN COMMON? Apart from the fact that I flew in and out of all three within a few days in early October (reports on the appropriate aviation sections), these are three very different types of city destinations. All three do have busy and expanding airports. So, apart from the fact that Ryanair fly into all three what feature links these airports? Had thought of placing this post on the 'Liverpool Airport Developments' section to stir up comment, but backed down! Though what these 3 airports, and others, have is indeed something that is very desirable at Liverpool. The answer is, as the following photos already have shown, is that they are connected to the City Centre by a tram or train link. The tram at Toulouse terminates close to the terminal and an easy direct walk. The tram at Edinburgh terminates beside the terminal and once you have not followed the taxi, bus and car parking signs is a direct walk along under cover walkways. Malaga's train connection is a below ground level station, again a short direct walk straight from Airport arrivals. Think I have used this shot before, but it serves to illustrate the connection, although not the station. Oh, how Liverpool John Lennon would benefit from such a connection directly into the City.
|
|
|
Post by ronturner on Oct 15, 2018 11:06:02 GMT 1
Well Brian, you said it and now you have started something
I would like to add Porto, Manchester, Southampton, Southend, Stansted, Heathrow, Gatwick, Birmingham, Paris (2), Lyon, Geneva Marseilles, Berlin, Barcelona, ….. the list goes on.
Perhaps it would be interesting to list all those airports in common, which have a rail line within spitting distance and nobody could ever be bothered to do anything about it or even think about it, and not even safeguard a route. Near to me, Nantes would join this group of airports.
Ron
|
|
|
Post by viscount on Oct 15, 2018 11:19:28 GMT 1
Amsterdam adds to the list of train connected airports.
Luton has a station close by with bus connection - or that was the situation when I used to fly down with EasyJet some 18 years ago.
London City in the VLM days when I flew there had a nearby station, with plans to connect directly. I'm out of date on knowledge here.
Are there airports smaller than Liverpool with direct tram/train services around Europe? Or has the existence of a tram/train link ensured growth beyond the 5m pa passenger mark?
|
|
|
Post by bulldog on Oct 15, 2018 18:28:04 GMT 1
What are passenger figures for those three?? Just thinking on this idea. When people travel to any airport do they want/ need to travel into the city centre of whichever city it is and then have to make a seperatejourney to the airport or is it for convenience of arriving passengers (tourists) who then want to travel to the city centre. If 5m passengers equals roughly 2.5 passengers on return journeys, how many of those passengers are wanting to travel on a link from the city centre? Does Liverpool for eg largely serve a local catchment , I am guessing yes as we have no long haul. So would a link to a mainline e.g. Parkway be more useful or a link direct (via tram for e.g. ) to city be preferable. Two different markets to my way of thinking. Anyone with actual facts on these thoughts ?
|
|
|
Post by jetdragon on Oct 15, 2018 23:28:13 GMT 1
add Sydney to the list of train connected airports too.
|
|
|
Post by ronturner on Oct 16, 2018 6:02:30 GMT 1
Bulldog. You hit the nail on the head. To have a main line with connections to many places, passing your front door, and not to have made use of it before it became impossible, at reasonable cost, is a bog mistake.
|
|
|
Post by viscount on Oct 16, 2018 9:36:09 GMT 1
2017 figures: Malaga 18m Edinburgh 13m Toulouse 9m
|
|
|
Post by woody66 on Oct 16, 2018 10:38:42 GMT 1
South Parkway is not viable as a link if you want West coast trains to stop there as their platforms are to short to accommodate them. My preference would be a direct link from Lime street, but as we have said in previous other threads on here, we all know that a rail or tram link will not happen until the demand is there and of course the cash to do so.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 15:10:55 GMT 1
What are passenger figures for those three?? Just thinking on this idea. When people travel to any airport do they want/ need to travel into the city centre of whichever city it is and then have to make a seperatejourney to the airport or is it for convenience of arriving passengers (tourists) who then want to travel to the city centre. If 5m passengers equals roughly 2.5 passengers on return journeys, how many of those passengers are wanting to travel on a link from the city centre? Does Liverpool for eg largely serve a local catchment , I am guessing yes as we have no long haul. So would a link to a mainline e.g. Parkway be more useful or a link direct (via tram for e.g. ) to city be preferable. Two different markets to my way of thinking. Anyone with actual facts on these thoughts ? Talking from general experience and not hard facts. Most transit passengers tend to use South Parkway for trains all over the country including the north and Scotland as it is both easier and quicker to get the mainline train (not Virgin) to Lime Street than bus it then lug cases from Renshaw Street to the station. Very few people choose to travel all the way to Lime Street by bus. About a third of none South Parkway passengers tend to be locals/airport staff whilst the other two thirds are tourists staying in the various hotels dotted around the city. Obviously, this varies greatly day by day with most tourists arriving at the weekend especially those that are hen/stag and football related.
|
|