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Post by ronturner on Jan 30, 2020 7:19:26 GMT 1
These costs are by no means the end of it. I for one am concerned about the Chinese digging their heels in with regard to certification there.. You can bet that certification will depend upon the release or sharing of all manner of stuff...and you can guess where that will lead.
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Post by bulldog on Mar 9, 2020 15:26:32 GMT 1
It appears that the regulators in US have rejected Boeing’s proposal to leave the wiring bundles in place on the Max, potentially delaying return to service. The FAA told Boeing that it did not agree with Boeing’s argument that the wiring bundles met safety standards.. it seems that there are more than a dozen different spots on the Max where the wiring bundles may be too close together. Most under cockpit in electrical bay. Not good as they say they could short circuit and lead to a crash if pilots did not react. Boing shares down 12% on the news.
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Post by bulldog on Mar 9, 2020 15:30:31 GMT 1
Ethiopian preliminary reports states that angle of attack sensors differed by 59-74 degrees cruising MCAS to kick in that was cause of accident
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Post by wadoki on Mar 14, 2020 19:45:25 GMT 1
MAX passengers' lives depended on a few bucks worth of AOA sensor. A bird strike could have caused the discrepancy.
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Post by ronturner on Mar 15, 2020 8:01:13 GMT 1
Not much relief for Boeing at the moment, with the reduced demand for flying (Temporary I hope) airlines are probably content to not take delivery anyway.)
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Post by bulldog on May 13, 2020 17:35:22 GMT 1
Just in case anyone missed boings update. In April delivered 6, ordered 0 cancelled (max) 108. Delivered all year 56 . Not great really. Airbus better but still struggling as we know
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Post by bulldog on Jul 1, 2020 22:11:19 GMT 1
BOC aviation have today cancelled 30 max and deferred delivery of the rest on order. Boeing must be hoping for some good news soon.
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Post by bulldog on Aug 4, 2020 17:39:14 GMT 1
Just been reading that it will cost about $1 million per max to correct the faults before it can fly again Software changes Warning lights to be fitted Changes to on board computers Re routing of some wiring MCAS linked to two sensors not one. Due to training and now 45 day public consult unlikely to fly again this year111 Boeing seemingly paid Southwest $428million campo for their fleet being grounded last year.
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Post by bulldog on Aug 12, 2020 11:42:04 GMT 1
Just reported in assoc press that Boeing managed to deliver 4 aircraft in Jul. No new orders and 43 Max were cancelled.
Lost over 800 orders so far this year.
Airbus never seem quite as open as Boeing regarding cancellations!!
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Post by bulldog on Aug 21, 2020 12:11:16 GMT 1
Enter Air have seemingly ordered a couple of Max 8, first order since last year. Must have given them away!!
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Post by kevmul on Nov 18, 2020 15:50:34 GMT 1
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Post by bulldog on Dec 8, 2020 19:09:31 GMT 1
Just the 88 max cancellations in November. 7 total deliveries for Boeing and have also announced further rate cut to 5 a month for the 787. Not good times at all for the manufacturers at present.
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Post by bulldog on Jan 27, 2021 18:10:10 GMT 1
Not totally Max related . Boeing today reported a $6.5 billion loss against a charge against 777x . Declared an $11.9 billion loss in total for 2020.
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Post by Airbus A346 on Jan 30, 2021 22:22:56 GMT 1
The woes are by no means over, the FAA has now discovered that 25 B737 Max 9s have been delivered with fuel sealant missing. The sealant should have been applied to the 'blow out boxes' in the fuel tanks to prevent seepage. If a leak occurs fuel can leak from the wing box on to a hot engine resulting in a massive fire. The aircraft concerned left the factory with absolutely no sealant, once again revealing major issues with Boeings' manufacturing processes and quality management.
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Post by viscount on Jan 30, 2021 23:58:11 GMT 1
Not surprisingly a somewhat one-sided thread given the thread title.
However just to be fair to Boeing, I read in the past week that the MAX has been cleared by the European Regulatory bodies for airline operation in Europe and that Mr O'Leary has placed 50 more firm orders for Ryanair. Likely got them discounted to get the Boeing orders ball rolling again, but they are still the first orders for over a year (unless it is revived 'old' news).
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