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Post by LPL on Jul 20, 2010 13:56:03 GMT 1
This has just popped up on the net after news that flybe are to place an initial order for 35 Embraer E-175's with an option to but another 105 aircraft. Reading this it looks like LPL have recently staged the meeting with flybe with regards to opening up routes exLPL.. www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ldpbusiness/business-local/2010/07/20/flybe-aircraft-deal-could-lead-to-expansion-at-liverpool-john-lennon-airport-92534-26889488/FLYBE could make a serious return to Liverpool JLA after today announcing the purchase of 35 new Embraer aircraft and options on a further 105 more.
The deal could be = worth a total of £3.3bn.
Flybe operated six routes from Liverpool but pulled out in 2005 and only flies an Isle of Man link now.
However, spokesman Mike Rutter said the new aircraft, due to arrive next year, lend themselves to European business city routes and talks have already taken place with previous JLA owner Peel and the new majority shareholder Vancouver Airport Services. |
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Post by cambrian5619 on Jul 20, 2010 14:16:24 GMT 1
Plenty of scope for unserved destinations from Liverpool including Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness, London, Newquay, Basel, Brussels, Budapest, Cologne, Copenhagen, Hamburg, Munich, Prague, Valencia and Zurich to name just a few.
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Post by LPL on Jul 20, 2010 15:47:09 GMT 1
Also with the flybe's tie up with Air France CDG would be a link that will generate traffic given EZY's cut back on the route probably due to its lack of crews.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 17:12:51 GMT 1
I think the operative word there is 'could'. Surely this order is just to replace the quirky (ageing - in terms of hours and landings, difficult to balance and heavy on maintenance), Dash 8s?
They could operate a service to Paris if they're getting into bed with AF, but this would dilute the KL revenue on the AMS service, so I'd be surprised if that happened.
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Post by Biggles on Jul 20, 2010 19:20:17 GMT 1
Cologne would be welcomed in the NW if it ever materialised as it served with EZY as a stop for lots of Military serving in Germany who live or have family in North West UK.
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Post by sawilson on Jul 20, 2010 22:44:08 GMT 1
No Airline operates to Southern Italy from the North West. Routes to Bari and Brindisi could be viable.
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Post by LPL on Jul 21, 2010 11:28:26 GMT 1
Surely this order is just to replace the quirky (ageing - in terms of hours and landings, difficult to balance and heavy on maintenance), Dash 8s? Flybe say its to enable growth into Europe. Jim French CBE, Flybe Chairman and Chief Executive said: “Flybe is delighted to announce this significant $1.3 billion order of 35 Embraer 175 aircraft. In doing so, we are securing an aircraft that fits with our stated aim of furthering our position as the leading regional airline in Europe.
“The 175 will allow us to preserve our two fleet strategy and the economic and environmental performance of the aircraft is in line with Flybe’s policy of only buying A and B rated eco-label aircraft as part of its commitment to invest in lower emission new technology aircraft.”
Mr. French continued: “The 175 will give Flybe significant added capacity and is particularly suited to the sector lengths prevalent in Europe that we are most interested in exploiting. In short, it perfectly fits the Flybe business model and we are delighted to be extending our long-running partnership with Embraer." |
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Post by viscount on Jul 21, 2010 12:15:52 GMT 1
I seem to recall Jim French making very similar statements when announcing the large order for Dash 8Q-400's a few years back. Indeed if type specific references are removed, that statement would be about purchasing Dash 8s rather than Embraers!
Garstonboy's comments relate to an industry earned reputation of the Dash 8 has having a number of drawbacks once in service. The Embraers are only slightly larger than the Dash 8Q-400 and can be viewed as a natural replacement, particularly on Flybe's longer Dash 8 routes. I'd be mighty suprised if, when the ERJ-170s start arriving, Dash 8Q-400s don't start leaving the fleet, albeit in lower numbers. Flybe currently have circa 48 Dash 8Q-400s and 8 more on order. Certainly the ERJ family of airliners have a much more 'airliner' shape in the perception of the general public than the tube with big tail and paddle propellors Dash 8. As Flybe already operate the larger ERJ-195s, I'm a little suprised that they are not adding a few to this fleet as part of the purchase of the slightly smaller ERJ-175.
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Post by LPL on Jul 21, 2010 22:07:10 GMT 1
There is a change within 24 hours of the aircraft order announcement.
The airline will receive its first E-175 around six months earlier than yesterdays news of September 2011.
The airline will start it on the Guernsey/Gatwick route.
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Post by buspilot on Jul 21, 2010 22:09:55 GMT 1
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Post by lplflyer on Aug 31, 2010 12:53:28 GMT 1
With Ryanair just announcing that it is stopping all services at Belfast City as of 31 October...is there a chance that flyBe might have another look at LPL-BHD or will easy get the Liverpool-Belfast route back to themselves?
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Post by lplflyer on Sept 6, 2010 17:37:11 GMT 1
Seems they answered my question themselves! A fantastic new boost to LPL's domestic network.. 6th September 2010 FLYBE TO THE RESCUE! One Hundred Additional Weekly Flights from Belfast City Airport Flybe, the UK’s Number One Domestic Airline and the largest scheduled carrier at George Best Belfast City Airport, has today announced three new services to Bristol, East Midlands and Liverpool bringing its total number of routes offered from Belfast to seventeen. This move will also mean locating two additional aircraft at the airport with the potential creation of 250 indirect jobs adding to the 215 already directly employed by Flybe in Belfast. From Sunday 31st October 2010, Flybe will operate two daily flights to Bristol, two daily flights to East Midlands and four daily flights to Liverpool (*full timetable below) with fares starting at just £24.99 one way, including taxes and charges for each of the three new services. Mike Rutter, Flybe’s Chief Commercial Officer comments, “We are delighted to be able to introduce these three crucial routes following last week’s announcement by Ryanair to cease operations from Belfast City Airport and with it, services to Liverpool, Bristol and East Midlands. Flybe has been serving the community in Northern Ireland for over 26 years and we are wholly committed to continue providing comprehensive connectivity throughout the UK and beyond to convenient destinations at competitive prices with maximum flexibility and choice. Flybe recognises that for a country such as Northern Ireland which depends so much on airlinks for its economic, social and tourism well being that reliability and dependability are key factors towards growth and development. In announcing these additional routes today we are further underlining our longterm investment and commitment to George Best Belfast City Airport and Northern Ireland.” Welcoming the announcement Tourism Minister Arlene Foster said: “I congratulate the Airport operator for acting quickly to fill these routes, which were vacated by Ryanair. Flybe is an airline that has shown long-term commitment to Northern Ireland and today's announcement confirms their continued investment here. “The development of direct, convenient and competitive access services is critical to achieving tourism growth and strategic targets. Great Britain is a key source market for Northern Ireland tourism and Tourism Ireland has an exceptionally strong promotional programme under way this year, to restore tourism growth from this all-important market. Tourism Ireland will be working with Flybe in Great Britain to maximise the promotion of these new routes.” Katy Best, Business Development Director at George Best Belfast City Airport said, “We knew there was significant demand for the routes vacated and we’re pleased to finalise an agreement with Flybe on three routes. Flybe is a long term partner and recognises our significant and continuing investment at the airport to provide world class facilities for passengers.” Seats go on sale from Tuesday 7th September and are available online at www.flybe.com . The Monday to Friday schedule is as follows: Bristol Depart Belfast City 0930 / 1830 Depart Bristol 1105 / 2005 East Midlands Depart Belfast City 0700 / 1600 Depart East Midlands 0830 / 1730 Liverpool Depart Belfast City 0645 / 1015 / 1545 / 1915 Depart Liverpool 0800 / 1130 / 1700 / 2030 Weekend flight times vary ENDS |
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Post by kevmul on Sept 6, 2010 18:40:58 GMT 1
This is excellent news. I've often wondered about Flybe's commitment to Liverpool, but this shows that they are happy to invest in routes and have stepped in to continue the link with BHD  |
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Post by sfp on Sept 7, 2010 12:58:16 GMT 1
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Sept 8, 2010 8:04:47 GMT 1
Usually I am the world's super-optimist but when it comes to Liverpool and Flybe I always have that dreadful feeling in the pit of my stomach which says that as soon as Flybe find an excuse they will export the services to Manchester. Time will tell if I am wrong. I hope I am proved incorrect and this is just the start of an expansion programme by Flybe from Liverpool.
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