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Post by johnoakes on Dec 5, 2010 8:16:57 GMT 1
Let's not forget the miners who died to produce the coal we have used--my father and uncles were all miners as were generations prior to them-- fewer people have been affected by nuclear and like it or not it does seem to be the only alternative at the present time.
The French just have cheaper electric and seem to be pragmatic and not inordinately concerned about their nuclear power stations--that's my experience talking to ordinary people--which we all are.
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Post by sfp on Oct 3, 2011 17:12:09 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 19:51:26 GMT 1
Does anyone know the predicted toll cost? If it's too high, could it have an adverse affect on Liverpools economy? Will the likes of Cheshire Oaks, Chester, and Warrington shopping area's become more attractive alternatives for the people of Runcorn/Frodsham etc? Also, what about the low paid workers currently traveling to and from Liverpool, will they be able to afford it? Will Beemer be forced onto the 82A or should he be contacting his estate agent with a view to moving to Hale Village? Best do it now Brian incase the value of your house plummets.
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Post by Beemer on Oct 4, 2011 20:36:14 GMT 1
Ste, we have already had letters from a firm of solicitors willing to make claims on our be-half for the noise and disruption from the increase in traffic when Boston Avenue becomes a slip road onto the new bridge. Regards Beemer.
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Oct 5, 2011 7:18:42 GMT 1
As I understand it there will not be toll booths on the bridge. In a scheme similar to the pay scheme in London city centre, ie: number plate recognition, the bridge will automatically monitor and bill users. Halton Council had to find savings imposed by the Government and doing away with tolls and the manning costs is their solution. There is also a commitment to keeping tolls on the bridge the same as the Mersey Tunnels. This doesn't mean that the Tunnel tolls won't rise but it does mean that there is a consistency in pricing which does not favour one area over another. There will be fines for users who do not pay within a certain time scale. There is a proposal to make the existing Runcorn/Widnes bridge local access only to prevent people avoiding the tolls. How this is going to be enforced is a mystery to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 18:35:35 GMT 1
 With regards to the toll's I have heard that the toll price for residents of the Halton area with be small in comparison to persons who live out of the area. I think it is a case of watch this space. People will obviously try other routes to get around paying such as via Warrington. Looks like it could be one big traffic jam. Just hope they land on 27 all the time. Bob 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 21:00:29 GMT 1
Sounds like your taken care of Brian. Three things I would ask these ambulance chacers would be:
1, If you put your house up for sale how long would be a reasonable time in which to sell it?
2, If after that time it remained unsold, will the council purchase it from you and would you be compensated to the full market value assuming the bridge had not been built.
3, Should you decide to stay put, on account of the noise levels, will you be able to claim for triple glazing?
No doubt there probably things you've already thought of but ear muffs for wife's teddy bear and a new runway orientation for the flight sim might be taking things a bit too far. ;D
Liverpoolman1. That wont be difficult with automatic number plate recognition. Just a matter of getting in touch with the DVLA to obtain all vehicles registered within the local access area and exempt them. The problem will be in deciding what actually is the local area. In an ideal situation it should be all those currently living within the Widnes/Runcorn post codes but somehow I very much doubt if it will be.
BbJbEfc. The people of the local area will (in someway or another) be paying for this in their local council tax. As such they need to get together and insist that they do not pay any tolls at all. They don't pay anything at the moment and should they start paying (even just a minimal amount), this will increase at a higher rate over the years until eventually they are paying the same amount as everyone else. So, if your a local recident, DON'T FALL INTO THE TRAP - SAY NO NOW!!!
The bridge is due for completion in 2016 and if past increases on the tunnel are anything to go by (10p yearly) the cost will be a minimum of £2 for cars (one way). Assuming 4 weeks holiday per year - that's an additional £960 a year for the 5 day worker to find.
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Post by davel on Oct 6, 2011 11:17:37 GMT 1
The trouble is with NPR cameras is they are not perfect. This system the're talking about is going to be automatic like the London congestion charging system. That has caused problems with missreading and motorists in Scotland have received bills from them when the've not been below the borders. The trouble is the authotities never believe you if you tell them the're wrong. You only have to see the JLA car park tickets, which prints your number on the ticket, does get it wrong occationally!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 17:20:39 GMT 1
Steve, All effected residents of Runcorn and Widnes have received solicitors letters for claims re the building of the bridge. I have received two as my bungalow on Beechwood is at the back of the Weston Expressway which at the best of times is a car park. I am more concerned re the compulsory purchases of properties, and having to queue up on that bridge when going to the match. Some of the infracstructure is already in place for the new crossing. It will be a case of wait and see what it will cost, and when the bridge will be completed. Happy Days Bob
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