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Post by Ant on Sept 24, 2022 19:21:43 GMT 1
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Post by viscount on Sept 24, 2022 20:16:50 GMT 1
Interesting and intriguing set of images, thanks for posting.
The Spitfire is indeed a replica. BA377/UF:J Spitfire F.IX allocated identity BAPC.377 and was formerly painted (one of a number Spitfire builds that have been) as EN398. According to MAM'22 it is privately owned kept at Belper, Derbyshire.
The biplane is a WWI SE.5A - so not a great deal of connection with a 1940 themed event! There are a few originals and an ever-growing number of scale and full-size replicas, both static and flying, following both original plans and adapted from the Currie Wot homebuilt bi-plane design. MAM'22 does not list serial B6147/A, so is either a recent repaint or a new one.
My initial thought was that the final one was the Zaunkoenig V-2 G-ALUA resurfaced. However, the rear end is all wrong and when I look closer so is the wing! Then, so too are the struts/undercarriage, which is what made me think of the V-2 in the first place! Indeed, the broad wings would appear to indicate it is one of the French post WWII Mignet designs that attempted to make the Pou-de-Ciel/Flying Flea into a safe airworthy aeroplane (and to great extent failed), but it is not the best known one, the HM.360 although the shape of those changed depending on engine and undercarriage arrangement. Dooh!!!, just looked more closely at the image and the aircraft has the inscription 'Flying Flea' in red on the engine cowling. Should have started with looking closer, rather than letting the little grey cells run rampant first.
That's my input and far from a full answer. Can someone add more?
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Post by philglt on Sept 24, 2022 21:28:54 GMT 1
It certainly looks typical of the flea family, but the wing strut arrangement is not so typical for one of the later models. This is most like the HM.280 Pou Maquis designed at the request of the French underground (Maquis).There is one on display at the Musee de L’Air apparently. This version had a small “cabin”, which could fit onto the cut out section visible. This also had steerable wheels.The one part that doesn’t fit this idea is with the wing shape, which looks curved on the front edge here, but straight on the original. If anyone is interested, there are a few pictures of this model online, but it comes up with a different numerical designation…error? There are pictures and some description in “ Henri Mignet and his Flying Fleas” by Ken Ellis and Geoff Jones (p166/7). I’m sure you all have a copy of this, given it’s authorship  I hope this helps a little Phil I have just found a photo of this flea on the “Welshpool 40s weekend” Facebook site and it appears to confirm what I found above with this comment: “ This is a replica of the Flying Flea which was used to help the resistance and SOE agents in France.” Also, if you scroll down a little further there is some information about the SE5 replica |
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Post by Ant on Sept 25, 2022 9:21:46 GMT 1
An additional image , if it helps anyone  IMG-20220925-WA0000a by Antliner, on Flickr Many thanks for the detailed responses so far received Cheers |
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Post by gtf4j2m on Sept 27, 2022 21:49:51 GMT 1
The Zaunkonig G-ALUA is now D-EBCQ and is displayed at the Deutches Museum at Oberschleissheim, Germany
Graham Taylor
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Post by stuartabm on Sept 29, 2022 0:11:37 GMT 1
The Flea is a Mignet HM.280 replica BAPC.260
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IMG-20220924-WA0002 by Antliner, on Flickr
IMG-20220924-WA0004 by Antliner, on Flickr
IMG-20220924-WA0001 by Antliner, on Flickr
