Hawarden families days 1982, 1983 & 1986.

[imford]

Hi Gents
Can anyone help, just come to put my old logbooks on computer and discovered my sons destroyed one of my early books, amazing what paint and crayon can do !!!. managed to recover all the airshows apart from Hawarden families days in 82 & 83. Got a few off my old pictures but not all. Any of you old hand spotters out there help me out. Any help greatly appreciated
Ian .

[viscount]

Quoted directly from the MAS 'Flypast' report, Hawarden Open Day, 12th June 1982

This year's open day at Hawarden will prove to be one of the most memorable displays in the North West this year. The highlight without doubt was the 'roller' performed by the Varig Airbus.

Below is a list of participants in the display:
G-SSCH HS-146 (no.3, brown/orange colours) (also flew)
G-VTOL Harrier T.2 (also flew)
5N-AVK HS.125 c/no.7160, Nigerian Civil Aviation Flying Unit (also lfew)
G-BDVH HS.748-2A (also flew)
RR299 (G-ASKH) DH.98 Mosquito T.3 (also flew)
G-JSSD Jetstream 31 (also flew)
G-AEBJ Blackburn B.2 (also flew)
G-ANTE DH.82A Tiger Moth (static only)
G-BARS DHC-1 Chipmunk (static only)
F-WZER/PP-VNE A.300B, Varig (flying display, touch & go performed)
G-ASYD BAC.1-11, Avionics development aircraft, (flying display only)
XX182, XX185, XX295 & XX347 Hawk T.1, 4 FTS (flying display only)
F-BTGV Guppy (well and truly beat up the field four or five times before leaving to land at Speke)
G-BAKS Jet Ranger, 'joy rides'

Unfortunately the promised Tornado did not show up, but the above more than made up for it. British Aerospace is to be congratulated for putting on such a good show - and it's free.

Noted leaving just before the gates opened was HS.125-700B HZ-NAD.

In the factory new HS.125s noted:
257172 5H-SMZ Government of Zanzibar
257174/NA.0321 N710BL (briefly G-5-18) Aircraft Associates
257175 C9-TTA Mozambique
257176/NA.0322 N109G Gulf Oil Corporation
257177/NA.0324 N710BJ Alaska Interstate
257178 4W-ACM Shaher
257179/NA.0327 N810SC Southern California Gas
257180/NA.0328 for Helmerich & Payne
257181 for N.M.O.D.
257182/NA.----- for Chemical Bank, or Theokol?
257183 for Jernigan No.2
257184
257185/NA.---- the -800 avionics development testbed
257186/NA.---- for H.O.C. No.2
257187 for N.M.O.D.
257188/NA.---- for Marathon Oil (wings only)
257189 (wings only)
257190 (wings only)
257191/NA.---- for Coca Cola (wings only)

Report compiled by Jim Ellis, Phil Hewitt & G.Pritchard.

x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x

From the same source, BAe Open Day, Hawarden, 11th June 1983

This years Open Day proved a little disapointing to many of the Society members who made the trip to what is usually a very good display. The '125 line held rather fewer airframes than previous years and the weather also put a few visiting aircraft off. However of the few that did make it, the Omani Jaguar was probably the most interesting, followed by the RAF's latest acquisition, the BAe.146.

Below is a list of all the aircraft in the display:
ZD696 BAe.146 RAF, c/no.1005 ex G-SCHH. Flew in from Hatfield to display, did not land.
G-27-383/Omani 221 in Arabic numerals, Jaguar (static)
RR299 Mosquito T.3 (also flew)
G-JSBA Jetstream (also flew)
G-BKPT/182 Broussard (also flew) period colours
J-108 (G-BJAX) Pilatus P.2 (also flew) Swiss period colours
XW323:44 Jet Provost T.5 (static)
G-BDVH BAe.748 (also flew)
WZ507 (G-VTII) Vampire T.11 (also flew)
G-AXCX Pup (static)
G-ANTE Tiger Moth (static)
G-BIBW Cessna 172 (static)
G-BAKS Jet Ranger, arrived at 1309 for pleasure flights
5H-SMZ BAe.125-700, outside 2 Site, departed at 1354.

In the factory:
Production of the series 700 was winding down, while the series 800 is still tooling up. No owners, as BAe no longer note these on the aircraft side, most unsporting!
257197 marked as G-5-12
257202
257204 series 700A
257205
257206
257207
257208
257209
258002
258003
258004, tail only noted
258005

Credits: Phil Hewitt, Jim Ellis, G. Pritchard

Hope this provides the information you are after. Not bad - a long answer and completed in just 90 minutes of the request being posted.

[imford]

Viscount
Thank you very much for that much appreciated indeed .
Ian

[jetdragon]

Resurrecting this old thread. here's a few shots from the very wet '83 display. Hope you like them

JD

[crumb]

Is that the same Broussard that crashed on M62 many years ago?

[ian531]

Hi crumb, I was wondering the same but the crash involved G-BKPU

Thanks to Jetdragon for posting the images
Ian

[jetdragon]

Found a few from the '82 display







JD

[vfr800]

Anyone remember what year it was when one of the Vampires crashed on take off and the inbound Beluga had to do a few circuits before it could land. That was a good airshow.

[jetdragon]

Mar 21, 2017 22:12:08 GMT 1 vfr800 said:

Anyone remember what year it was when one of the Vampires crashed on take off and the inbound Beluga had to do a few circuits before it could land. That was a good airshow.

Hi vfr800

It was Venom G-VIDI (WE275) on 7 July 1996

cheers

JD

[viscount]

While looking for something else rediscovered in a box these prints I was given a little while ago, all are well worth airing on this Hawarden Nostalgia thread. The first couple are a few more from the rather wet 1982 'Families Open Day' already listed and illustrated earlier on this thread.



Jet Provost XW323/44 wearing the pale blue band of the RAFC, Royal Air Force College, Cranwell



Star of the small static line-up was SEPECAT Jaguar 221/G27-383 Sultan of Oman Air Force, having made the short hop across from Warton.



The prototype BAe.125-800 G-BKTF looking smart despite the gloomy conditions.



BAe.125/CC.2 XX508 back for a rework as she wears the 32 Sqdn badge on the tail. Print is not dated, and cannot be immediately matched to a year (although near certainly either 1982 or 1986). It does not appear in the list earlier for the 1982 display - but then neither does G-BKTF or the mustard and red cheat-line '125 in the background of other shots either, so it looks like the compiler for the MAS that year omitted '125s seen in earlier years.

[jetdragon]

XX508 was retrofitted with Garrett Engines in 83 (delivered 12 August) Brian - I have both XX507 & XX508 logged at the 11 Jun 83 Family Day

cheers

JD

[viscount]

1986 BAe Chester Families Day, Saturday 28th June.

The following report and list retyped directly from the MAS 'EGGP' magazine as reported at the time, with no attempt to add or cross-check information with current internet or paper production lists.

BAe Chester Factory Open Day, 1986

Always an interesting event, with the opportunity to catch up on BAe.125 production and witness a delightful informal air display. The format was little changed, with the usual emphasis on BA products in the flying display, with BAe.125, BAe.146, BAe.748 etc. Disappointingly the Mosquito remained hangered with technical problems, however the presence of an airworthy Vampire and Venom was notable, as was the Sea Harrier.

APPRENTICE SCHOOL

XE852/60 Vampire T.11  Actually fuselage pod and booms of XE852/60 with the wings from XE935.

PRODUCTION HALL     (-) shows extra information, not obtained off the aircraft

   --    BAe.146/100 (E.1004) (G-BRJS/N346SS)                    BAe.125/800    8071   with wings 8070
G-5-019  BAe.146/100  E.1019  primer for CAAC (serial corrected) BAe.125/800    8072   with wings 8071
G-5-026  BAe.146/100  E.1026  primer for CAAC                    BAe.125/800    8073   with wings 8072
         BAe.146      E.-067  nose section                       BAe.125/800    8074
         BAe.146      E.-070  nose section                       BAe.125/800    8075
G-BKTF   BAe.125/800B (8001)  primer                             BAe.125/800    8076
         BAe.125/800  8066    on line                            BAe.125/800    8077
         BAe.125/800  8067                                       BAe.125/800    8078
         BAe.125/800  8068    DHB ITI, no wings                            BAe.125/800    8079
         BAe.125/800  8069    with wings 8068                    BAe.125/800    8080
         BAe.125/800  8070    with wings 8069           and components only from 8081


FLIGHT TEST HALL                                       PAINT SHOP

ZD620    BAe.125/C.3 (7181)   RAF, 32 Sqdn badge                 BAe.125/800B   8064   (for Malawi)  
G-5-510  BAe.125/800  8058    u/c test demonstration                                   (should become MAAW-J1, the current
G-5-516  BAe.125/800  8062                                                             MAAW-J1, C/no 7076 is to be traded in)
(G-5-518)BAe.125/800  8063

OUTSIDE   (* shows participation in the flying display)

WR410*   DH.112 Venom FB.54   (G-BLKA, ex Swiss J-1790) G-BARS*  DHC.1 Chipmunk 22     resident 
WZ507*   DH.115 Vampire T.11  (G-VTII)                  G-BFJW   Bell Jet Ranger       pleasure flights
XP778*   DHC.2 Beaver AL.1    AAC, Middle Wallop        G-BHDO   Cessna 182Q           parked over by control tower         
ZE440*   BAe. Jetstream T.3   BAe, Prestwick            G-BTWW   Bell Jet Ranger       pleasure flights             
ZE701    BAe.146/CC.2         for RAF/Queen's Flight    G-OODI*  Pitts S-1D     
44-79609:PR  J-3c Cub         North Wales based (G-BHXY)G-WAUS*  BAe.146/200           BAe, Hatfield
G-ANTE*  DH.82A Tiger Moth    resident                  8 + - *  WAR Fw-190 replica    Luftwaffe style colours (G-WULF)
G-AIYR*  DH.89A Dragon Rapide                             ??     Bocian glider         North Wales G.C., Pen-y-Parc 
G-ARLP   A.61 Terrier         Chirk based               G-5-515* BAe.125/800           in primer (8061)
G-ATAV   D.62 Condor          glider tug, f&t Long Mynd G-11-6   BAe.748/2B            BAe, Woodford (ex N749AV)

FLYING ONLY  (all had also been displaying at the RAFA Woodford Air Show)

WB271/204:R  F.Firefly AS.5   FAAHF                     WM167/M  G. Meteor TT.20       (G-LOSM)
WG655/910:GN H.Sea Fury T.20  FAAHF                     ZA176/716 Sea Harrier FRS.1    FAA, 899 Sqdn. 





A charming image of DH.82A Tiger Moth G-ANTE outside at Hawarden
 


G-ARLP A.61 Terrier in the static park



Piper J-3c Cub 44-79609/G-BHXY in period USAAF markings also in the static aircraft park



The diminutive WAR scale FW-190 replica G-WULF painted in pseudo WWII Lufwaffe style markings.





XP778 DHC.2 Beaver AL.1 of the Army Air Corps and based at Middle Wallop.
 


DH.115 Vampire T.11 WZ507 (G-VTII)



DH.113 Vemon FB.54 painted as WR410 (G-BLKA), formerly with the Swiss Air Force
 


Sea Harrier FRS.1 wearing the code 716 and tail 'winged gauntlet' logo of 899 Sqdn.  The list says this aircraft flew in the flying display, but did not land.  This print is filed in with the Hawarden 1986 shots though.  The weather though has changed, as all the other photos are in dry, clear conditions!  There are no details on the reverse of the print.  Added in: Looking again at the original, the wheels of the aircraft behind are also those of a Harrier - right aircraft, wrong place - certainly not on the ground Hawarden 1986.  Nice photo, so I'll leave it in as it is the right aircraft just not a Hawarden shot!
 


BAe.748/2B G-11-6 from BAe at Woodford having recently returned on the bankruptcy of Air Virginia where it was N749AV.  It shortly after became G-BJTL for onward sale.
 


ZE701 BAe.146/CC.2 destined for the Queen's Flight, note the RAF roundels have yet to be applied.
 


ZD620 BAe.125/C.3 RAF, 32 Sqdn, in the flight test hall after receiving attention
 


G-5-516 BAe.125/800 in primer in the final assembly area.
 
(missing)

Finally Hawarden based G-BBRV DHC.1 Chipmunk 22 at Chester, dated 6.93 on the back of the print.  G-BBRV was sold and departed Hawarden 9.6.93 (for Liverpool and LFS) after being Chester based for around 20 or so years.                            

[jetdragon]

Nice pics Viscount - thanks for posting those. One minor correction in the log (noting your comment re checking) - the CAAC 146 was marked G-5-019 not -109. Pretty sure the Sea Harrier photo is not at Broughton though.

cheers

JD

[viscount]

The G-5- serial was a typo on my part now corrected and identified as corrected.

I am actually certain that the Sea Harrier photo was not Hawarden - although correctly coded as the one that was in the flying display there in 1986. May well have been taken at Woodford's RAFA Air Display the same day as they had both a Harrier GR.3 and the Sea Harrier on the ground there.

One of the problems of using photos given to you, even though sorted into places is they can be miss identified or have been shuffled around in the past. On another thread today I entered 10 photos of Barton, then on further investigation took 5 out as being somewhere else! Still those I've posted on this thread that are Chester add to the 1982 images and are a good set from 1986 too.

I'd just love for others to add more images to this 1980's thread, add to the 1990s thread, or indeed (if they were very naughty and willing to own up) from the days when cameras were banned, photos of earlier Chester annual family open days.

[bravoxray]

Hi Brian , many thanks for putting the images from Hawarden onto the website , the final image of Romeo Victor taken by me was at Hawarden as stated this was probably very early June , maybe the 2nd as my log book entry has the line that we flew over to Hawarden on the 9th June in G-BSGL to collect RV , incidentally prior to us collecting RV BAe had to fit an electric starter to her as she still had the old style cartridge starter which was not allowed by the CAA , I hope this is of interest and once again many thanks for posting cheers