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Post by dovermire on Nov 10, 2012 16:53:17 GMT 1
Engineering colleague of mine informed me this afternoon that an announcement to all staff at First Chester and First Birkenhead depot's will be made Monday 12 Nov @ 07:20 to the effect that both depot's have been sold, likely contender is Stagecoach who purchased Wigan depot.
More when known.
Dave O
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Post by dovermire on Nov 12, 2012 9:14:17 GMT 1
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Post by RICEY on Nov 12, 2012 12:52:01 GMT 1
Intresting news Dave. The bosses from First HQ were down yesterday i guess to tell depot managers
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 14:35:27 GMT 1
This is getting interesting. Has anyone heard of any other company buying Firstbus asset's recently? Seems as if everything is going to Stagecoach. Wouldn't hold your breath on them keeping these as I feel sure the Competition Commission will step in soon, could be trouble ahead for the area's smaller operators if they don't. They also announced that Wrexham is part of the deal too. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-20295715 |
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Post by dovermire on Nov 12, 2012 19:18:06 GMT 1
Intresting news Dave. The bosses from First HQ were down yesterday i guess to tell depot managers Managers new from July - from the horses mouth. Dave O |
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Post by Biggles on Nov 12, 2012 23:42:48 GMT 1
Let`s hope the new company improves the Bus service on the Wirral especially in and around the part of Wallasey where I live. I was speaking to an elderly lady this week who in her 90`s told me the service was better during the war years than today. Not a good client recomendation.
She is not alone either. I am glad I don`t need to use the service or lack of just yet.
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Post by RICEY on Nov 13, 2012 1:42:25 GMT 1
Wrexham is an outstation of Chester Depot Ste for School buses only. No commercial routes run from there
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 22:04:44 GMT 1
Thanks for letting me know Jordan. That will bring music to GHA's ears as Stagecoach tend to focus on commercial operations and shy away from Schools. Lets hope they keep these going and don't cancel them at short notice, thereby leaving the local authorities in the lurch.
Biggles, if the routes you are referring to are operated by First then yes, you will see a marked improvement providing the delays to those services are not being caused by unforeseen circumstances, roadworks, accidents, driver sickness, etc.
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Post by davecalveley on Nov 14, 2012 1:51:24 GMT 1
Biggles
You live in a part of Wallasey that has a better service at night and on Sundays than in the daytime..... remember when the 409 used to stop near your flat and then go non stop along the prom with passengers on to then drop them off along the Warren Drive stops on its way back to Grove Road station?? the reason being the timings were cut that much that there was not enough time to drop off and pick up along the route in both directions....we think it was a missing Monty Python script!!!
regards Dave
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 22:34:18 GMT 1
Sounds like your schedules manager pre-tests the routes using a Honda Goldwing Dave. Best not let ours know or he'll want to upgrade his 750 ;D
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Post by dovermire on Nov 22, 2012 8:32:54 GMT 1
Let`s hope the new company improves the Bus service on the Wirral especially in and around the part of Wallasey where I live. I was speaking to an elderly lady this week who in her 90`s told me the service was better during the war years than today. Not a good client recomendation. She is not alone either. I am glad I don`t need to use the service or lack of just yet. Been informed, Elisabeth Tasker, Managing Director of Stagecoach Merseyside and South Lancashire at a meeting held Monday gone, informed those present (it is reported) when asked about vehicle change at Chester and Birkenhead, that there were going to be some sad faces at other Stagecoach depot's re allocation of new vehicles to them, this was construed that allocation was forthcoming to both Chester and Birkenhead. Also, reported that there would be probable route changes along with local management, Mr Souter would not want to waste his reported investment in Wirral and Cheshire area. Dave O |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 23:12:36 GMT 1
As I said earlier, worrying times for the local operators. Unless Stagecoach go head to head against Arriva it's going to be the small independents that suffer. Still, at least there's Merseytravel/Cheshirebus contracts to fall back on, or is there? Even that sector is now dominated by the big boys, many with fleets larger than the once small municipals such as Lanacaster Corporation. The tendering policies of some local authorities (accept the lowest bid regardless of whether they can deliver) has seen the demise of many companies and ensured competition in this sector is extremely limited too. |
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Post by dovermire on Dec 3, 2012 9:48:53 GMT 1
Latest heard is sale goes through Sun 13 Jan 2013, understood Glenvale Transport livery eventually.
Dave O
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Post by RICEY on Dec 4, 2012 0:48:11 GMT 1
Sounds confusing but thats what the merseyside arm of stagecoach trades as. Stagecoach Merseyside t/a Glenvale Transport. All buses that are being kept will be repainted and refurbished into beachball livery
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2012 22:59:06 GMT 1
Glenvale livery was the old Merseybus all cream with red skirt colours. These will be painted in the standard Stagecoach livery as NWVRT suggests, the only difference will be the name and address on the side which will be that of Glenvales. Here's a list of companies owned by Stagecoach in the UK. The list itself only covers the companies as they were when purchased by Stagecoach and doesn't include those previously acquired by those companies. i.e. Glenvale took over CMT but that company (although fully absorbed into their Gillmoss operation, is or was - according to the drivers - until recently, still a strategic business unit within Glenvale) is not included in the list. This list is taken directly from Wikipedia's article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagecoach_GroupUK operating companies The following is a breakdown of the Stagecoach operating divisions. The centre of each operating region is shown in parentheses. Legal company names are listed alongside the trading names for that company.
Bus division See also: Bus transport in the United Kingdom
Stagecoach Devon - Stagecoach controls operations in Devon through Stagecoach Devon, consisting of (as of May 2003) Stagecoach Devon Limited. The trading name of this operation is Stagecoach in Devon. The headquarters are in Exeter.
Stagecoach East - Managing Director Andy Campbell. Stagecoach controls operations in the East through Stagecoach East. Comprising United Counties Omnibus Company Ltd - Bedford depot, trading as Stagecoach in Bedford. And Cambus Ltd and the Viscount Bus & Coach Company Ltd (demerged as a subsidiary of Cambus Holdings in 1989), trading as Stagecoach Cambridgeshire. Trading names are Stagecoach in Cambridge and Stagecoach in Huntingdonshire and Stagecoach in Peterborough and Stagecoach in Bedford. The headquarters are in Cambridge. (As of September 2010 Stagecoach in Northants transferred to a new Midland division.) Stagecoach in the Fens (Huntington) now operates the longest Guided busway in the world with the fleet for the busway running on bio fuel.
Stagecoach East Kent & East Sussex - Stagecoach controls operations in East Kent and East Sussex through Stagecoach East Kent & East Sussex, comprising the East Kent Road Car Company Limited, Hastings & District Transport Ltd, Eastbourne Buses Ltd and Cavendish Motor Services Ltd. Fleetnames include Stagecoach in Eastbourne, Stagecoach in Hastings and Stagecoach in East Kent. The additional Stagecoach in East Sussex name is used on joint Eastbourne & Hastings publicity but is not carried on vehicles. The headquarters are in Canterbury.
Stagecoach East Midlands - Stagecoach controls operations in the East Midlands area through Stagecoach East Midlands. Comprising Lincolnshire Road Car Co Ltd, Grimsby-Cleethorpes Transport Ltd, Cleveland Transit Ltd (Hull depot only) and East Midland Motor Services Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Bassetlaw, Stagecoach in Mansfield, Stagecoach in South Yorkshire, Stagecoach Grimsby-Cleethorpes, Stagecoach in Hull and Stagecoach in Lincolnshire. The headquarters are in Lincoln.
Stagecoach East Scotland - Stagecoach controls operations in the east of Scotland through Stagecoach East Scotland, comprising Fife Scottish Omnibuses Ltd, AA Buses Ltd, Bluebird Buses Ltd, JW Coaches Ltd, Rennie's of Dunfermline Ltd, Stagecoach Scotland Ltd and Strathtay Scottish Omnibuses Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Perth, Stagecoach Bluebird, Stagecoach in Fife and Strathtay. It also operated the new Forth Fast hovercraft service from Kirkcaldy to Portobello. The headquarters are in Kirkaldy as of 2009[update].
Stagecoach Highlands - Stagecoach controls operations in the
Scottish Highlands after the takeover of The Rapsons Group (Orkney Coaches/Highland Country Buses) in 2008, adding to the network already operated in the City of Inverness by Stagecoach, consisting of Highland Country Buses Limited. It trades as Stagecoach in Orkney (Kirkwall depot & outstations), Stagecoach in Lochaber (Fort William depot), Stagecoach in Skye (Portree depot & outstation), Stagecoach in Inverness (Aviemore, Inverness and Tain depots) and Stagecoach in Caithness (Thurso depot & outstations). The headquarters are in Inverness.
Stagecoach London - Stagecoach purchased the East London and Selkent divisions of London Buses when they were privatised in 1994. Both operate tendered services for Transport for London. Deciding to focus on organic growth for its UK bus operations, and citing the inflexibility of the London tendering system, the London bus operations were sold to Macquarie Group on 31 August 2006 for £263.6m. Macquarie continued to use the Stagecoach brand for a limited period under licence, and Stagecoach provided administrative and other support functions for a transitional period of 12 months from the sale. Macquarie rebranded both into their original East London and Selkent identities, albeit updated. In October 2010 Stagecoach reacquired its old London operations from Macquarie Bank for £59.5m with both operations once again rebranded as Stagecoach.[20]
Stagecoach Manchester - Stagecoach controls operations in Greater Manchester through Stagecoach Manchester, comprising Greater Manchester Buses (South) Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Manchester and Magic Bus. The headquarters are in Manchester.
Stagecoach Merseyside - Stagecoach controls operations in the Merseyside and Liverpool areas through Stagecoach Merseyside. The legal names of the group is Glenvale Transport Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Merseyside and Magic Bus. The headquarters are in Liverpool.
Stagecoach Midlands - Stagecoach Midlands controls operations in Warwickshire area through Stagecoach in Warwickshire, comprising Midland Red (South) Ltd (Warwickshire depots) and in Northamptonshire through Stagecoach in Northants, comprising United Counties Omnibus Company Ltd (except Bedford depot) . Trading names include Stagecoach in Warwickshire, Stagecoach in Northamptonshire and Goldine. The headquarters are in Rugby.
Stagecoach North East - Stagecoach controls operations in the north east of England through Stagecoach North East, comprising Busways Travel Services Ltd and Cleveland Transit Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach on Teesside, Stagecoach in Hartlepool, Stagecoach in Newcastle, Stagecoach in South Shields and Stagecoach in Sunderland. The headquarters are in Sunderland.
Stagecoach North West - Stagecoach controls most operations in the north west of England through Stagecoach North West, comprising Cumberland Motor Services Ltd and Ribble Motor Services Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Cumbria, Stagecoach in Lancaster and Stagecoach in Lancashire. The headquarters are in Carlisle.
Stagecoach Oxfordshire - Stagecoach controls operations in Oxfordshire area through Stagecoach in Oxfordshire, comprising Thames Transit Ltd and Midland Red (South) Ltd (Banbury depot). Trading names include Stagecoach in Oxfordshire and Oxford Tube. The headquarters are in Oxford.
Stagecoach Sheffield - Stagecoach controls bus and tram operations in the Sheffield area of England through Stagecoach Sheffield, comprising Yorkshire Terrier, South Yorkshire Supertram Ltd and Andrews (Sheffield) Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Sheffield and Stagecoach Supertram. The headquarters are in Sheffield.
Stagecoach South - Stagecoach controls operations in the South of England through Stagecoach South, comprising Southdown Motor Services Ltd, Hampshire Bus Company Ltd and Stagecoach (South) Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Hants & Surrey, Stagecoach in Hampshire, Stagecoach in Portsmouth and Stagecoach in the South Downs. The headquarters are in Chichester.
Stagecoach Wales or Stagecoach de Cymru / South Wales - Stagecoach controls operations in Wales through Stagecoach Wales, comprising Red & White Services Ltd, The Valleys Bus Co Ltd, Aberdare Bus Co Ltd, Rhondda Buses Ltd, Parfitts Motor Services Ltd, Islwyn Borough Transport Ltd and Crosskeys Coach Hire Ltd. The trading name for these operations is Stagecoach in South Wales and Stagecoach de Cymru. The headquarters are in Cwmbran.
Stagecoach West - Stagecoach controls operations in the West of England through Stagecoach West, comprising Cheltenham District Traction Company Ltd, Swindon & District Bus Company Ltd and Cheltenham & Gloucester Omnibus Company Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Cheltenham, Stagecoach in Swindon, Stagecoach in Gloucester, Stagecoach in the Cotswolds, Stagecoach in the Wye and Dean. The headquarters are in Gloucester.
S tagecoach West Scotland - Stagecoach controls operations in the west of Scotland through Stagecoach West Scotland, comprising Western Buses Ltd and Stagecoach Glasgow Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach Western, Stagecoach A1 Service, Stagecoach in Glasgow. The headquarters are in Ayr.
Stagecoach Yorkshire - Stagecoach controls operations in the Yorkshire area through Stagecoach Yorkshire, comprising Yorkshire Traction Co Ltd, Chesterfield Transport Ltd and Barnsley & District Traction Co Ltd. Trading names include Stagecoach in Yorkshire and Stagecoach in Chesterfield. The headquarters are in Barnsley. |
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