Airband radios of the 1960s (Pic very heavy)
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An excellent recent post by garstonboy on Prestwick in the 1960s sparked off some interest in early airband radios and in particular those models sold under the Shorrock brand. Two NWAN members still have their Shorrock radios 50 years on.
Let us take a look at a few of the iconic radios from the past.
Shorrock Developments were based in Blackburn, Lancashire and was owned and run by Dr Stanley Shorrock, known to all as Stan.
In the 1970s the company became Shorrock security ltd which was later aquired by Chubb Security Ltd.
Shorrock Clubman
I think I would be right in saying that the first Shorrock airband model was the Clubman.
To the best of my knowledge, there are no details or photos available of this one on the internet at all, until now that is.
NWAN member Ken Airbus still has his Clubman (aka mk1 I think), and after all these years, it still works.
Ken kindly sent me a few photos of it, Much smaller than the later Shorrock Mk V, the Clubman has VHF airband band only, it looks in pretty good condition considering its age. The handle has been changed from the standard dog collar type plastic covered wire to a steel bar.
Ken tells us that the item was purchased in 1962 from Childwall Radio, Clildwall Five Ways, Liverpool for the sum of £28, which would equate to around £580/€622/$781 USD in 2018..A substantial investment.
Here are some pictures of Kens radio, as said extremely rare to find one of these.
Shorrock were known to take a standard production radio and modify it for airband use.
They advertised in Flight International Magazine and sold through Pooleys Flight Shop to name one but in the 1960s there were lots of radio and TV shops all over every high street.
I am unaware if the modifications took place in their Blackburn workshops or if the production model was altered by the original manufacturer and Shorrock branding applied. It is indeed possible that this is an entirely bespoke radio made with parts from different manufacturers and put together by Stan and his Lancashire team. The jury is out on that one.
In any case the question for me was, If it was a major tweak..
What manufacturer, and model was the original or "donor" standard production radio for the Shorrock Clubman ?
And here is where I am still not sure but I have a few very possible candidates...
That mighty electronics giant from the Netherlands Philips in the 1950s had produced some beautiful valve sets for the home like the BX 760 X "Stratocruiser" model. Note the wave from the stewardess, is she from KLM ?
Their advertising told us , "the greatest radio ever built by Philips" with "a sound reproduction of extraordinary quality". Even today a thing of beauty. We have to bear in mind at the time just how much these luxury items sold for.Needless to say radios were very expensive and yet nearly every household had some variant of "the wireless".
The transistor age
In the early 1960s transistors we a brand new thing, these little devices replaced bulky valves so the portable radio came of age. Philips went very very big on building transistor portables they had subsidiary companies also namely Stella and Ekco. A massive change took place in the physical size of radios, due to the introduction of transistors they were portable and worked off battery power, take them anywhere and listen to "your thing". Radio stations diversified providing local news and popular music for the masses. Radios were much more affordable.
Here is some of their very fine advertising artwork from Philips from the early 1960s. Very modern, appealing to younger people. Still looks cool today.
"C'est plus sûr !" (The most trusted/secure brand)...And who could argue ? They were country miles ahead of anyone else in terms in innovation !
Pye were a British company, although they had a loyal customer following for their much larger lounge radio sets they didnt follow Philips and jump straight into production of small transistor portables.
Pye had a huge radio and telephone business Pye Cambridge was the industry standard and a very well respected brand. They had major government supply contracts to the emergency services all over the Commonwealth for Handheld, Mobile and Base station trancievers . This was before the competition came from a foreign competetor in the form of Storno.
Pye's advertising at the time was aimed squarely at the quintessential British Gentleman.
In true British style, Pye were not at all convinced that transistors were the new market and so rather than put their company name and iconic logo on a new consumer transistor portable radio, they set up a small spin off company to trial them instead .
The company was called PAM.
PAM made relatively small numbers of portables and when Pye were eventually convinced around 1965 that transistors were the way forward they produced some Pye branded sets such as the Pye Propliner 1363,(it took a long while for the aviation name is cool penny to drop at Pye,a decade or more after Philips's Stratocruiser & a good few years after others had used an aviation theme for advertising) a very nice looking radio but the other brands had captured the market by then so Pye never capitalised on the new influx of sales in 1960--65 and missed the bus so to speak.
Now back to Kens Shorrock Clubman and the possible donor/production model it came from.
Im still unsure and its a wild guess but Im swaying towards Philips. Kens radio shows signs that the cut out indent for the top buttons has been blanked off by Shorrocks buttons late used in the mk3 3 bander model (see brouchure futher down this post).
UPDATE Dec 2018 :
The donor radio was made by Perdio (PERsonal raDIO), a British company. They were very innovative and used early transistor chassis (and casings) from philips,pye etc and modified them.
Perdio Model: PR100.
Image credit : www.radios-tv.co.uk/
Interesting too is that very attractive cursive font used for the Clubman branding on Kens Shorrock in the 1st photo of this article.
I wonder if Stan Shorrock seen this font somewhere before and copied it in his design or if another manufacturer copied his idea ?
Here is a vintage Admiral radio from the USA, and what a fine looking futuristic bit of kit it is.. with new plastics used for the case instead of bakelite/paxolin. I think so anyway.
The same cursive font along with the atomic age logo. The MW antenna is a directional plastic radar like plate which pulled out of the top of the radio and swiveled around for best reception. Admiral called it “roto-scope”.
A radio clearly aimed at the young set with its space age design.
It wouldn’t look out of place at the Jetsons House !
A lot of effort went in to making these devices look good as the companies realised that their name was being carried around with young trend setters, others would see and want.
They call these people "social influencers" today on social media btw and the manufacturers are sending out free samples of their wares to youtubers all over the planet. Its very big business.
Thanks to NWAN member Ken (Airbus) for taking the time to supply the photos of your radio for us to look at.
Shorrock Mk V
On to another Shorrock next and now it’s the turn of the mk V,
An all singing and dancing multiband radio with VHF airband receive.
Fortunately again NWAN member Bob Samba still has his and although it hasn’t been tried out in a decade or two, I reckon it would still be working. Here is Bobs mk v, still in great condition for its age.
Bob tells us that his parents bought the radio for him from Beaver Radio, Whitechappel, Liverpool for £36, I would put the date at around 1964/5 so that would be open wallet time for £713/€815/$960 USD in todays money please ! Here are some pictures of Bobs Radio and an advert. Unfortunately,One of the mw/lw ferrite aerial bar clips has come free from the chassis,so the whole bars weight hangs on one clip.The break probably due to very brittle plastic, I have seen a few Decca TP-85s with this fault on ebay.
A lovely radio based on a Decca TP85 high end consumer 3 band portable, here is an
unmodified TP-85. The Shorrock mk V only came in black/gold, The TP85 had quite a few colours Tan, Blue and Red being popular.
The outlets at the back of the TP-85 and Shorrock Mk V were plenty, I have marked them up on this next photo.
The Shorrock Mk V and the Decca TP85 side by side.
Attach to record player outlet, to amplify sound, tape recorder out, 2 external antenna sockets VHF and MW, earpiece socket,the lot. Also the unit although it only needed one had space and wiring harness to run a pair of 9 volt batteries connected independently so you could run this radio for up to 400 hours at medium volume.
Some Decca History
Decca were at the forefront of electronics in the 1950s and 60s especially with the development of Television and their name was famous for the development of cathode ray tube technology. Decca were a major supplier of radar arrays and controls for civil and military airfields. Decca were one of the major TV set manufacturers and they were later to become one of the first to manufacture colour tv under their "Deccacolour" brand.
When the transistor came along, Decca, like Phillips, went straight into production of transistor portable radios. One of their most popular sets in the very early 60s was the fashionable Decca "Debonaire" model.
The young good looking air traveller featured in its advertising.
Thanks again to NWAN member Bob (Samba) for contributing the photos of his Shorrock Mk V for us all to see.
You may be thinking to purchase a Shorrock for old times sake but a word of warning if you think it will be working trouble free. Shorrock radios used early germanium transistors these were known to develop a fault over time known as the tin whisker effect. A reaction inside the can caused small conductive tracks to form and short the transistor junction. This usually caused other components to fail and an engineer can find him/herself chasing their own tail even when all the transistors in the entire radio have been replaced.
Components are hard to come by and bringing one back to life can be time consuming and costly.
Other iconic British transistor radios in the 60s were of course Roberts Radio and also Hacker and Bush.
The Hacker Sovereign 2 model was arguably the very best of the best of British, amongst very stiff competition. It is a beautiful set, and great to listen to. The sound on MW broardcast band is nothing short of incredible for a portable radio. I would put it up against anything from Japan, even today for sound quality. It would win hands down.
I think I have one in my shed somewhere. Rescued from a skip house clearance and sold to me at a car boot about 15 years ago for £1.50 from memory. I must dig it out again and have a listen in.
Here is a Voltastic VHF radio, 1960s made in the UK, (image credits and thanks to http://www.raf-fairford.co.uk)
Gauer 6220 and 6221.
Another airband radio made in the 1960s was produced in Switzerland by Gauer Electronics.
This one is in many ways very similar in design to the Dansette radio models and also similar to the Decca Debonaire the dial remenicent of the Bush TR-82c a very popular household transistor set of the 60s.
This model is a Gauer 6221 sold in the USA by Scott Air Inc. Thanks to Darren again for supplying the photos below of his radio which has just landed with him purchased from a seller in the USA.
A rather unusual and quirky telescopic aerial storage bay. A feature of the 6221 was the compass rose knob at the top of the set.
Considering its 50 odd years old and made the trip across the pond twice at least it doesnt look too bad at all.
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Finally, for the 1960s we have the Masteradio D517.
Unfortunately only one photo on the internet, with respect to the photographer/owner I refrain from posting the photo here without their permission but search Google and you will find it...
But the same radio was also known as a Voltastic Skymaster VHF, NWAN member nickjaxe owned one of these back in the day. Here is a photo kindly donated to this article by raf-fairford.co.uk
image attribution /credit www.raf-fairford.co.uk
That’s about it for the 1960s for airband radios, but with the introduction of the transistor component,
Our friends Philips were forward thinking as ever. They started marketing kits for young boys to build their own radios and other devices.
Just as Frank Hornbys Meccano inspired young engineers, Philips stirred up the aspirations of future electronic engineers. Jobs were a plenty in the industry. I would wager that some of the 1970/80s R&D workers in the Philips empire started out as young lads playing with kits like this.
This would pay big dividends 20 or so years on as Philips were the creators of the Compact Disc or CD which is still sold today and also the first to market a home video recorder the v2000, and laser disk player. Philips teamed up with Sony to develop this further and the DVD was born. Global game changing products.
Philips played a very important part in the birth of transistor technology by forging ahead while others dithered.
With their unique innovations, Philips were the only major player to survive the battle with Hong Kong and Japanese and USA manufacturers in the 1970s.
Our resident Philips expert NWAN member ronturner will no doubt have some first hand experience working for this great company.
In a strange twist of fate when I was writing this post, the postman called and dropped off (literally.. to pinch Rons phrase) my latest ebay purchase.
A chinese airband radio kit. Bought on a whim for the princely sum of £10.
I have some ideas for this although the instructions are, well very sparse and.. lets just say..different.
A throwback to the 1970s/80s,there are some Intergrated Circuits and of course our old friends.. transistors in this little pile of junk. In there is a little gem,the whole radio depends on its beating heart, an 8 pin Philips NE602AN mixer/occillator IC which is still produced in their Thailand factory.In the spirit of a junior pioneer,I must go with vigour and attempt building it pasty instructions or not. The "comic" (a trade term for the schematic diagram) is frankly a joke.I tried the makers address printed on the pcb for some more help and if you are brave enough I will let you know the store address. It is www.taobao.com. Good luck with that btw ! When I tried looking at this Chinese online store my searches seemed to return very questionable lingerie.
I have a feeling there will be some photos and posts in the near future covering my progress.Errr on the radio kit, not my taobao store searches...
To close, a post from a previous thread by NWAN member maverick with a great photo featuring some young guys on the terrace tuning in .
Yes its Kenny (Airbus) and his friends at Liverpool Speke Airport listening to the actual Shorrock Clubman featured earlier (The first radio featured in this post)...Yes the actual radio 50 years on !
I hope you enjoyed our visit to the 1960s.
Just having a clear out and came across this old Echo cutting - THURSDAY JANUARY 12 1967 - anyone recognize themselves?
Caption reads - "The busy midnight scene at Liverpool Airport, with a Trident from Amsterdam in the centre. It was a bumper occasion for these memebers of the Merseyside Society of Aviation Enthusiasts"
Let us take a look at a few of the iconic radios from the past.
Shorrock Developments were based in Blackburn, Lancashire and was owned and run by Dr Stanley Shorrock, known to all as Stan.
In the 1970s the company became Shorrock security ltd which was later aquired by Chubb Security Ltd.
Shorrock Clubman
I think I would be right in saying that the first Shorrock airband model was the Clubman.
To the best of my knowledge, there are no details or photos available of this one on the internet at all, until now that is.
NWAN member Ken Airbus still has his Clubman (aka mk1 I think), and after all these years, it still works.
Ken kindly sent me a few photos of it, Much smaller than the later Shorrock Mk V, the Clubman has VHF airband band only, it looks in pretty good condition considering its age. The handle has been changed from the standard dog collar type plastic covered wire to a steel bar.
Ken tells us that the item was purchased in 1962 from Childwall Radio, Clildwall Five Ways, Liverpool for the sum of £28, which would equate to around £580/€622/$781 USD in 2018..A substantial investment.
Here are some pictures of Kens radio, as said extremely rare to find one of these.
Shorrock were known to take a standard production radio and modify it for airband use.
They advertised in Flight International Magazine and sold through Pooleys Flight Shop to name one but in the 1960s there were lots of radio and TV shops all over every high street.
I am unaware if the modifications took place in their Blackburn workshops or if the production model was altered by the original manufacturer and Shorrock branding applied. It is indeed possible that this is an entirely bespoke radio made with parts from different manufacturers and put together by Stan and his Lancashire team. The jury is out on that one.
In any case the question for me was, If it was a major tweak..
What manufacturer, and model was the original or "donor" standard production radio for the Shorrock Clubman ?
And here is where I am still not sure but I have a few very possible candidates...
That mighty electronics giant from the Netherlands Philips in the 1950s had produced some beautiful valve sets for the home like the BX 760 X "Stratocruiser" model. Note the wave from the stewardess, is she from KLM ?
Their advertising told us , "the greatest radio ever built by Philips" with "a sound reproduction of extraordinary quality". Even today a thing of beauty. We have to bear in mind at the time just how much these luxury items sold for.Needless to say radios were very expensive and yet nearly every household had some variant of "the wireless".
The transistor age
In the early 1960s transistors we a brand new thing, these little devices replaced bulky valves so the portable radio came of age. Philips went very very big on building transistor portables they had subsidiary companies also namely Stella and Ekco. A massive change took place in the physical size of radios, due to the introduction of transistors they were portable and worked off battery power, take them anywhere and listen to "your thing". Radio stations diversified providing local news and popular music for the masses. Radios were much more affordable.
Here is some of their very fine advertising artwork from Philips from the early 1960s. Very modern, appealing to younger people. Still looks cool today.
"C'est plus sûr !" (The most trusted/secure brand)...And who could argue ? They were country miles ahead of anyone else in terms in innovation !
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Pye were a British company, although they had a loyal customer following for their much larger lounge radio sets they didnt follow Philips and jump straight into production of small transistor portables.
Pye had a huge radio and telephone business Pye Cambridge was the industry standard and a very well respected brand. They had major government supply contracts to the emergency services all over the Commonwealth for Handheld, Mobile and Base station trancievers . This was before the competition came from a foreign competetor in the form of Storno.
Pye's advertising at the time was aimed squarely at the quintessential British Gentleman.
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In true British style, Pye were not at all convinced that transistors were the new market and so rather than put their company name and iconic logo on a new consumer transistor portable radio, they set up a small spin off company to trial them instead .
The company was called PAM.
PAM made relatively small numbers of portables and when Pye were eventually convinced around 1965 that transistors were the way forward they produced some Pye branded sets such as the Pye Propliner 1363,(it took a long while for the aviation name is cool penny to drop at Pye,a decade or more after Philips's Stratocruiser & a good few years after others had used an aviation theme for advertising) a very nice looking radio but the other brands had captured the market by then so Pye never capitalised on the new influx of sales in 1960--65 and missed the bus so to speak.
Now back to Kens Shorrock Clubman and the possible donor/production model it came from.
Well here are a few possible candidates from Philips, Stella (by Philips) and PAM.
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Im still unsure and its a wild guess but Im swaying towards Philips. Kens radio shows signs that the cut out indent for the top buttons has been blanked off by Shorrocks buttons late used in the mk3 3 bander model (see brouchure futher down this post).
UPDATE Dec 2018 :
The donor radio was made by Perdio (PERsonal raDIO), a British company. They were very innovative and used early transistor chassis (and casings) from philips,pye etc and modified them.
Perdio Model: PR100.
Image credit : www.radios-tv.co.uk/
Interesting too is that very attractive cursive font used for the Clubman branding on Kens Shorrock in the 1st photo of this article.
I wonder if Stan Shorrock seen this font somewhere before and copied it in his design or if another manufacturer copied his idea ?
Here is a vintage Admiral radio from the USA, and what a fine looking futuristic bit of kit it is.. with new plastics used for the case instead of bakelite/paxolin. I think so anyway.
The same cursive font along with the atomic age logo. The MW antenna is a directional plastic radar like plate which pulled out of the top of the radio and swiveled around for best reception. Admiral called it “roto-scope”.
A radio clearly aimed at the young set with its space age design.
It wouldn’t look out of place at the Jetsons House !
A lot of effort went in to making these devices look good as the companies realised that their name was being carried around with young trend setters, others would see and want.
They call these people "social influencers" today on social media btw and the manufacturers are sending out free samples of their wares to youtubers all over the planet. Its very big business.
Thanks to NWAN member Ken (Airbus) for taking the time to supply the photos of your radio for us to look at.
Shorrock Mk V
On to another Shorrock next and now it’s the turn of the mk V,
An all singing and dancing multiband radio with VHF airband receive.
Fortunately again NWAN member Bob Samba still has his and although it hasn’t been tried out in a decade or two, I reckon it would still be working. Here is Bobs mk v, still in great condition for its age.
Bob tells us that his parents bought the radio for him from Beaver Radio, Whitechappel, Liverpool for £36, I would put the date at around 1964/5 so that would be open wallet time for £713/€815/$960 USD in todays money please ! Here are some pictures of Bobs Radio and an advert. Unfortunately,One of the mw/lw ferrite aerial bar clips has come free from the chassis,so the whole bars weight hangs on one clip.The break probably due to very brittle plastic, I have seen a few Decca TP-85s with this fault on ebay.
A lovely radio based on a Decca TP85 high end consumer 3 band portable, here is an
unmodified TP-85. The Shorrock mk V only came in black/gold, The TP85 had quite a few colours Tan, Blue and Red being popular.
The outlets at the back of the TP-85 and Shorrock Mk V were plenty, I have marked them up on this next photo.
The Shorrock Mk V and the Decca TP85 side by side.
Attach to record player outlet, to amplify sound, tape recorder out, 2 external antenna sockets VHF and MW, earpiece socket,the lot. Also the unit although it only needed one had space and wiring harness to run a pair of 9 volt batteries connected independently so you could run this radio for up to 400 hours at medium volume.
Some Decca History
Decca were at the forefront of electronics in the 1950s and 60s especially with the development of Television and their name was famous for the development of cathode ray tube technology. Decca were a major supplier of radar arrays and controls for civil and military airfields. Decca were one of the major TV set manufacturers and they were later to become one of the first to manufacture colour tv under their "Deccacolour" brand.
When the transistor came along, Decca, like Phillips, went straight into production of transistor portable radios. One of their most popular sets in the very early 60s was the fashionable Decca "Debonaire" model.
The young good looking air traveller featured in its advertising.
Thanks again to NWAN member Bob (Samba) for contributing the photos of his Shorrock Mk V for us all to see.
You may be thinking to purchase a Shorrock for old times sake but a word of warning if you think it will be working trouble free. Shorrock radios used early germanium transistors these were known to develop a fault over time known as the tin whisker effect. A reaction inside the can caused small conductive tracks to form and short the transistor junction. This usually caused other components to fail and an engineer can find him/herself chasing their own tail even when all the transistors in the entire radio have been replaced.
Components are hard to come by and bringing one back to life can be time consuming and costly.
Other iconic British transistor radios in the 60s were of course Roberts Radio and also Hacker and Bush.
The Hacker Sovereign 2 model was arguably the very best of the best of British, amongst very stiff competition. It is a beautiful set, and great to listen to. The sound on MW broardcast band is nothing short of incredible for a portable radio. I would put it up against anything from Japan, even today for sound quality. It would win hands down.
I think I have one in my shed somewhere. Rescued from a skip house clearance and sold to me at a car boot about 15 years ago for £1.50 from memory. I must dig it out again and have a listen in.
Here is a Voltastic VHF radio, 1960s made in the UK, (image credits and thanks to http://www.raf-fairford.co.uk)
Gauer 6220 and 6221.
Another airband radio made in the 1960s was produced in Switzerland by Gauer Electronics.
This one is in many ways very similar in design to the Dansette radio models and also similar to the Decca Debonaire the dial remenicent of the Bush TR-82c a very popular household transistor set of the 60s.
This model is a Gauer 6221 sold in the USA by Scott Air Inc. Thanks to Darren again for supplying the photos below of his radio which has just landed with him purchased from a seller in the USA.
A rather unusual and quirky telescopic aerial storage bay. A feature of the 6221 was the compass rose knob at the top of the set.
Considering its 50 odd years old and made the trip across the pond twice at least it doesnt look too bad at all.
"]Finally, for the 1960s we have the Masteradio D517.
Unfortunately only one photo on the internet, with respect to the photographer/owner I refrain from posting the photo here without their permission but search Google and you will find it...
But the same radio was also known as a Voltastic Skymaster VHF, NWAN member nickjaxe owned one of these back in the day. Here is a photo kindly donated to this article by raf-fairford.co.uk
image attribution /credit www.raf-fairford.co.uk
That’s about it for the 1960s for airband radios, but with the introduction of the transistor component,
Our friends Philips were forward thinking as ever. They started marketing kits for young boys to build their own radios and other devices.
Just as Frank Hornbys Meccano inspired young engineers, Philips stirred up the aspirations of future electronic engineers. Jobs were a plenty in the industry. I would wager that some of the 1970/80s R&D workers in the Philips empire started out as young lads playing with kits like this.
This would pay big dividends 20 or so years on as Philips were the creators of the Compact Disc or CD which is still sold today and also the first to market a home video recorder the v2000, and laser disk player. Philips teamed up with Sony to develop this further and the DVD was born. Global game changing products.
Philips played a very important part in the birth of transistor technology by forging ahead while others dithered.
With their unique innovations, Philips were the only major player to survive the battle with Hong Kong and Japanese and USA manufacturers in the 1970s.
Our resident Philips expert NWAN member ronturner will no doubt have some first hand experience working for this great company.
In a strange twist of fate when I was writing this post, the postman called and dropped off (literally.. to pinch Rons phrase) my latest ebay purchase.
A chinese airband radio kit. Bought on a whim for the princely sum of £10.
I have some ideas for this although the instructions are, well very sparse and.. lets just say..different.
A throwback to the 1970s/80s,there are some Intergrated Circuits and of course our old friends.. transistors in this little pile of junk. In there is a little gem,the whole radio depends on its beating heart, an 8 pin Philips NE602AN mixer/occillator IC which is still produced in their Thailand factory.In the spirit of a junior pioneer,I must go with vigour and attempt building it pasty instructions or not. The "comic" (a trade term for the schematic diagram) is frankly a joke.I tried the makers address printed on the pcb for some more help and if you are brave enough I will let you know the store address. It is www.taobao.com. Good luck with that btw ! When I tried looking at this Chinese online store my searches seemed to return very questionable lingerie.
I have a feeling there will be some photos and posts in the near future covering my progress.Errr on the radio kit, not my taobao store searches...To close, a post from a previous thread by NWAN member maverick with a great photo featuring some young guys on the terrace tuning in .
Yes its Kenny (Airbus) and his friends at Liverpool Speke Airport listening to the actual Shorrock Clubman featured earlier (The first radio featured in this post)...Yes the actual radio 50 years on !
I hope you enjoyed our visit to the 1960s.
Caption reads - "The busy midnight scene at Liverpool Airport, with a Trident from Amsterdam in the centre. It was a bumper occasion for these memebers of the Merseyside Society of Aviation Enthusiasts"
Can't recognise any other of the dodgy-looking characters, though 
,went to work for Monarch at LTN, along with a couple of other colleagues after Cambrian/BA moved out. He stayed there until a few years ago, when he retired. I still hear from him occasionally.
