East Fortune, Perth, Dundee, Edinburgh. October 2018.

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NATIONAL MUSEUM OF FLIGHT SCOTLAND
at EAST FORTUNE AIRFIELD, EDINBURGH
Monday 1st October 2018

OUTSIDE EXHIBITS

G-AVMO   	BAC-111-510ED             	British Airways
G-BDIX  	DH.106 Comet 4C         	Dan Air
XM597    	Avro Vulcan B.2         	RAF, Waddington Wing

HANGAR ONE - LONG TERM STORAGE

Their long-term storage facility.  Attempted to "blag" my way in - no chance!  Seems that there is so		
much in there it defies any application of health and safety for all, except for those who put the stuff in		
in the first place!  Lots of gems though - Phantom, Beaufighter, Tiger Moth, Bulldog prototype, Sketeer,		
Viscount (ex Cosford G-AMOG), Buccaneer.		
There are restoration workshops that they very occasionally take small group tours around.

HANGAR TWO - MILITARY AVIATION HANGAR

3677    	Letov S-103 (Mig-15)    	Czech Air Force
9940    	Bristol Bolingbroke IVT  	Royal Canadian Air Force, all yellow
191659/15	Me.163B Komet	                Luftwaffe
G-ARCX   	Gloster Meteor NF.14     	Ferranti
TE464/ -	V-S. Spitfire XVI       	no unit codes, mounted on poles
(VX185)  	EE Canberra B.5 (nose only)	all black 'Record Breaker' inscription
WF259/171:A	Hawker Sea Hawk F.2     	Royal Navy
WW145/680:LM	DH. 112 Sea Venom FAW.22	Royal Navy
XN776/C  	EE Lightning F.2A        	RAF, 92 Sqdn markings
XV277	        HS Harrier GR.1             	Royal Navy - only ever a test a/c, no sqdn service
XZ119/FG	Sepecat Jaguar GR.1A      	RAF, Iraqi war 'pink' . "Katrina Jane" nose art.
ZE934/TA	Panavia Tornado F.3          	RAF, 56 Sqdn markings
	        Ferranti Phoenix UAV       	hung from roof

HANGAR THREE - CIVILIAN AVIATION HANGAR

(G-ACYK)	Spartan Cruiser III (fuselage)	Recovered from a hillside, centre section only
G-AGBN  	GAL Cygnet II           	WWII period camouflage
G-AHKY  	Miles M.18 Mk 2	
G-ANOV   	DH.104 Dove 6           	Civil Aviation Authority colours and titles
(G-APHV)	Avro C.19 'Anson'	        silver, rebuilt to show construction (also once VM360 RAF)
G-ASUG	        Beech E.18S              	Loganair colours
G-AVPC   	Drune D.31 Turbulent      	also marked PFA.544
G-BBVF   	SA Twin Pioneer 2           	Flight One colours
G-BELF  	BN-2A Islander                	Scottish Ambulance Service - all yellow
(G-JSSD)	SA Jetstream 31         	BAe Scottish Division titles
G-SJEN   	Ikarus C.42 FB80	
G-UNIV  	Montgomerie Autogyro      	"Montgomerie"
W-2	        Wier W-2                	original autogyro
591	        Schleicher Ka.4          	suspended from roof
VH-SNB	        DH.84 Dragon I	
(VH-UQB)	DH.80 Puss Moth          	tucked into a corner with wings folded
XA229	        Slingsby T.38 Grasshopper TX.1  RAF Air Cadets, suspended from roof
	   plus two hang gliders, suspended from roof

HANGAR FOUR - THE CONCORDE EXPERIENCE

(G-APFJ)	Boeing 707-436 (forward fuselage) BOAC colours (ex Cosford)
G-BOAA   	BAC-Aerospatiale Concorde 102	BAW colours
	        Jetstream Super 31 fuselage	Engineering mock-up, built from a Mk.1 aircraft
XX308	        BAe. Hawk T.1	                Red Arrows colours (recent addition)

THE GOOD NEWS

The National Museum of Flight Scotland is actively gathering funding and making plans for a big expansion		
which will bring the Comet, BAC-111-510 and Vulcan indoors and provide space for many of the		
exhibits currently in deep storage.  This is really good news for a fine museum with many hidden 'gems'		
and follows on from the refurbishment of hangars 2 and 3, November 2014 to March 2016.		
		
The day before I visited was a Scottish Museums 'free entry' day with over 4,000 visitors - glad I was		
a day later! While not a large museum, very well worth visiting and some types not be often viewed elsewhere.
Well exhibited, freedom to wander around without barriers (other than for safety), plenty of short audio/visual 
displays adding to information boards beside the aircraft. An enjoyable afternoon.

USING THE GENERAL AVIATION AIRFIELD

G-CGAZ  	P&M Aviation Quik R     	flexiwing microlight making several flights.
                I did not attempt to visit this mainly microlight aircraft airfield as time had run short.

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EAST FORTUNE AIRFIELD
NATIONAL MUSEUM OF FLIGHT SCOTLAND

HANGAR 4 - THE CONCORDE EXPERIENCE




BAC-Aerospatiale Concorde 102 G-BOAA of British Airways, the centre-piece of an interesting and informative display featuring the development of passenger comfort, using the forward section of a BOAC Boeing 707 as part of the presentation.



Hawk T.1 XX308 of the Red Arrows has a place in Scottish Concorde history as it once flew in formation with Concorde on a visit to Scotland. Who needs an excuse though to exhibit an instantly recognisable aircraft in genuine aerobatic team colours?


HANGAR 3 - CIVILIAN AVIATION




A type I come across in the pre-War development of air routes from Liverpool/Speke, I had no idea that a sizeable chunk of a Spartan Cruiser II still existed. The cabin section rescued from the wreck of an aircraft that had force landed on a Scottish Island. Amazing.



From the same era of airliners, a DH.84 Dragon I, VH SNB that I first remember seeing as part of the Strathallan Collection



A further aircraft collected in Australia for the Strathallan Collection, DH.80 Puss Moth VH-UQB with wings folded and no registration on the fuselage sides, but is under the wing.



Another aircraft restored and displayed without an external identity, Avro C.19 (Anson) G-APHV/VM360, restored to show elements of its complex construction using metal, wood and fabric.



An unconventional machine for its time, the GAL Cygnet G-AGBN in WWII camouflage. Only 10 were built in the late 1930s, production ending with the start of WWII, However 5 were used by the RAF to introduce pilots destined to operate Boston bombers how to land a tricycle landing gear aircraft. This one was part of the Strathallan Collection and flew until 1988.



An aircraft that I recall seeing at Speke in the early '70s, Beech E.18S G-ASUG of Duncan Logan (Contractors) Ltd of Glasgow - a name that soon evolved to became Loganair when they offered the aircraft for passenger and freight charter work - first aircraft of an airline that still operates in Scottish skies.



Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer G-BBVF has a place in the Museum as a Prestwick built design - but I recall this aircraft based at Blackpool with Fllight One in the early '70s for survey work over the North West on behalf of the Ordnance Survey creating maps from stereo photographs. It, or other Twin Pins of Flight One were to be seen flying grid patterns over Merseyside on photo details and occasionally landed at Speke.



Another aircraft I recall as a frequent Speke visitor through the 60s and 70s was the Civil Aviation Flying Unit's DH.104 Dove 6 G-ANOV, one of a small fleet of Dove, Prince and later HS.748 aircraft. While the colour scheme evolved little during decades of CAFU service, the titles changed at times, here in the final form, Civil Aviation Authority.



I admire Museums prepared to bring in types still in service due to their local significance. Here is an early BN-2A Islander with strong Scottish connections, G-BELF of the Scottish Air Ambulance Service.



Pre WWII, while Cierva and Avro were developing Autogyro experience south of the border, during the 1930s in Scotland Weir was building a series of improving designs, the W-2 surviving. Beside it is a Glasgow University built Autogyro G-UNIV of the mid 90s based on the Campbell designs. Interesting to compare and contrast the mechanical principles and technologies 60 years apart.



Schleicher Ka.4 glider, identified only as '591'. Not listed in my W&R 25.



Next time you go into the Mainair hangar at Barton, or pop into West Lancs at Ince Blundell, tell them that the previous Ikarus C.42 you saw was a Museum piece in Scotland - so therefore that is what they are training their students on! Guaranteed to get you chucked out, but there is indeed an Ikarus on display - although nearly all in deep store, East Fortune hold a ground-breaking significant collection of gliders and light sport aircraft.


HANGAR 2 - MILITARY AVIATION




Another aircraft imported for the Strathallan Museum is this absolute beauty, a Canadian built Bristol Bolingbroke IVT - otherwise known in Britain aa a long-nose Blenheim. To think that over a thousand Blenheim aircraft (short and long nose) were built in just a few years by Rootes at Speke during WWII.



Spitfire 16 TE462 is creatively displayed in a diving attitude on steel posts. A little surprised that it is not painted in Squadron codes, as most were. Would look good in a Scottish Royal Auxiliary Air Force Squadron marked scheme for a local connection.



Representing the 'Cold War' period of jet aircraft design progress, a Mig-15 in Czech Air Force markings.



From the same period Hawker Sea Hawk WF259/171:A. I thought the 'A' represented aircraft carrier HMS Albion, the Museum steward I talked to stated it was RNAS Arbroath based. W&R 25 shows it served with 736 Sqdn at RNAS Lossiemouth during a rather brief active service.



I always associate the Lightning F.2A and 92 Sqdn with RAF Germany. Mind you visually an F.2A is not far off a Lightning F.6 which I do very much associate with RAF Leuchars. Actually the mark and local significance is irrelevant, it is just good to see a Lightning preserved indoors.



An interesting Harrier GR.1/3 XV277, as it has very little flying time, being used for development flying by Hawker Siddeley and A&AEE. XV277 was mid 70s built and after its flying days were finished it went to the Royal Navy for ground use - therefore the puzzling 'Royal Navy' titles on an aircraft mark never used by the Fleet Air Arm. Both outrigger, wing-tip undercarriage legs wear a '07' code - so likely come from an OCU aircraft!



Once you have finished closely examining the art-work, the aircraft is Jaguar GR.1A XZ119/FG. Second time in a few weeks I've posted an image of a RAF aircraft preserved in Iraqi War 'pink' with crudely applied, but now most certainly non-PC 'nose art'. Here 'Katrina Jane' displays a clear lack of underwear. The other 'nose art' image was on a Tornado GR.1 featured on a Finningley B of B thread on the Nostalgia nwan Section.



ON EXTERNAL DISPLAY





Avro Vulcan B.2 XM597 looks impressive out on an open airfield, good news that there are active plans to get it indoors in a new facility soon.



Clearly taking a beating from the relentless Scottish winter weather, Comet 4c G-BDIX is open to the public as a 'walk through' exhibit. I had certainly forgotten how you needed to assume the height of a dwarf to get in (or out) of the passenger entrance doors. I flew in G-BDIU out of Liverpool in March 1980 to Paris/Orly and back on what became the final Comet visit to Liverpool Airport. Walking through evoked great memories.



The 'dials, levers and switches' technology of the 1950s clearly displayed through a protective Perspex door of the Comet flight deck.



The BAC-111 is clearly worthy of preservation in British aviation museums. Former British Airways series 510 G-AVMO is preserved at East Fortune, clearly selected due to being named 'Lothian Region' for much of its long service with BAW.



I hired a car from Arnold Clarke at Edinburgh Airport, got an upgrade with a very useful sat Nav (even if it did not have the 2nd Firth of Forth bridge crossing installed). Known to me as "Logy" while driving between airports (combination of first and last group of regn letters), to the rest of Britain as a Kia C'eed. Not impressed by the access, as my stiff neck had great problems folding through the driver's door space. Pleasant to drive though.

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Great set of photos and write-up Brian brought back many memories of these flying. You've either forgotten or failed to mention that the Anson was no stranger to Speke also.

derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/3900/speke-various-pics-yesteryear

Other photos of her at Speke

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:G-APHV_Avro_19_Anson_Srs_2_Survey_Flts_Inc_LPL_25MAR66_(6928130617).jpg

www.airteamimages.com/avro-anson_G-APHV_-private_208239.html

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PERTH AIRPORT (well that is what the entrance sign says)
Monday 1st October am, Tuesday 2nd am & pm.

				
G-ATRM	Cessna F150F    	dismantled in hangar	G-DAAZ	PA-38RT Turbo Arrow IV	all black
G-AZZR	Cessna 150L		                        G-ETPR	PA-28R Cherokee Arrow 200	
G-BBLS	AA-5 Traveler		                        G-GFCA	PA-28-161 Cadet	
G-BBNZ	Cessna F172M		                        G-HAMR	PA-28-161 Warrior II	ACS colours
G-BGLG	Cessna 152		                        G-INGS	Champion 8KCAB	
G-BHAI	Cessna F152          	ACS                   	G-LARR	AS.350B3 Squirrel	Skyhook titles, no rotors fitted
G-BKAZ	Cessna 152             	ACS colours      	G-MFEF	Cessna FR172J	
G-BMTA	Cessna 152 II         	ACS             	G-OACI	MS.893E Rallye 180GT	has moved since May!
G-BMXA	Cessna 152 II      	ACS               	G-OSSA	Cessna TU206B   	Skydive St Andrews
G-BNJH	Cessna 152 II	        all white	        G-PTOO	Bell 206L Long Ranger 4	
G-BODD	PA-28-161 Warrior II	ACS      	        G-RNRM	Cessna A185F Skywagon	Skydive St Andrews, no prop.
G-BSDO	Cessna 152 II	        ACS colours     	G-SCAA	Eurocopter EC.135T2	Scottish Air Ambulance
G-BSHP	PA-28-161 Warrior II	Scottish Aero Club	G-SELA	Cessna 152         	ACS colours
G-BSLT	PA-28-161 Warrior II		                G-XBOX	Bell 206B Jet Ranger	
G-BXJM	Cessna 152           	ACS	                G-ZAZU	DA.42 Twin Star	
G-BZLH	PA-28-161 Warrior II	Scottish Aero Club	D-ENPC	Cessna F172H	        same parking position as in May
G-CDRC	Cessna 182Q		                        XX695/C	(G-CBBT) SA Bulldog 120	RAF red/white training colours
G-CIKM	DA.42 Twin Star

All the above (bar G-XBOX) logged on the Tuesday morning visit.  An instructor whose first student had not shown up, offered 
(without being asked) to take me into the ACS maintenance hangar!  Friendly place.

A new hangar is being constructed between the initial car park and the ACS hangar - presumably for the Scottish Air Ambulance
helicopter.

Cessna 152 G-BNJH currently all white



Cessna F172H D-ENPC is in the same position as when I visited back in May, the tie-down blocks have changed though!



G-OSSA Cessna Tu.206B with Skydive St.Andrews titles



G-RNRM Cessna A.185F Skywagon, taildragger, also with Skydive St.Andrews titles, but minus prop.



Neat line of aircraft parked on the grass



G-OACI MS.893E Rallye, when seen in May she was further out on the airfield having clearly not moved for a while, since then she has been moved!



More aircraft parked neatly on the grass



On Tuesday afternoon Jet Ranger G-XBOX had joined Long Ranger G-PTOO parked by the tower.



Rotorless Squirrel G-LARR with 'Skyhook' titles parked between the new hangar and the ACS maintenance hangar.

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DUNDEE, RIVERSIDE AIRPORT,
Tuesday 2nd October 2018, lunch-time/early afternoon

G-BGKS	PA-28-161 Warrior II     	Tayside         	G-OWAP	PA-28-161 Warrior II	Tayside, BAW style tail
G-BNOF	PA-28-161 Warrior II     	Tayside colours  	G-TSDA	Aquila A.211     	Tayside
G-BNON	PA-28-161 Warrior II    	Tayside colours  	G-TSDB	Aquila A.211     	Tayside
G-BOVK	PA-28-161 Warrior II     	Tayside colours 	G-TSDC	Aquila A.211    	Tayside
G-BOYI	PA-28-161 Warrior II    	Tayside         	G-TSDE	Aquila A.211     	Tayside
G-BVHE	Grob G.115D      	        Tayside, in hangar	G-WEND	PA-28RT-201 Arrow IV    Tayside colours
G-BXOJ	PA-28-161 Warrior II	        Tayside           	G-WYLD	Cessna T.210N Centurion	same position as in May
G-CAHA	PA-34-200T Seneca II	        Tayside          	CS-DRV	Hawker 800XPi    	v, landed, NetJets
G-CGEI	Cessna 550 Citation Bravo	v, landed        	CS-DVS	EMB-500 Phenom 100	v, departed, Valair
G-CGFH	Cessna T.182T Skylane	        in maintenance hangar	N221HJ	Falcon 7X       	v, landed
G-EELS	Cessna 208B Caravan 1	        v, landed & departed	N906TF	Falcon 7X       	v, parked
G-EGTB	PA-28-161 Warrior II	        Tayside, BAW style tail	OO-GMJ	Beech 350 King Air	v, departed, Air Service Liege
G-ENEA	Cessna 182P		                                OY-EUR	Pilatus PC-12    	v, parked
G-EVIE	PA-28-181 Warrior II	        Tayside          	9H-VCM	Challenger 350   	v, VistaJet, parked
G-LGNE	Saab SF.340B	                Loganair, in hangar		v = visitor

Most active I've ever seen Dundee.  So active I went to Tesco Riverside bought some food and parked down between the coastal wall and football       fields, just short of the threshold.  On this visit my patience was rewarded with a succession of visitors.  According to a search-comb Security      lady who stopped for a chat while I was photographing through the fence of the grass parking area, the recent opening of a V & A Gallery at Riverside    has triggered much executive travel and boosted loads on the scheduled London service.  She was delighted to be working harder.

View across the grass parking area used mostly by the Tayside Flying School



Cherokee Warrior G-BOVK in full Tayside Aviation colours - a familiar aircraft as once Liverpool based with Air Nova back in the early '90s.



Cherokee Warrior G-BXOJ of Tayside Aviation



G-WYLD parked in a far corner of the grass apron has not moved far since my May visit - although the grass has been cut underneath.



Two larger biz-jets filled the east end of the main apron when I arrived, N906TF a Falcon 7X, according the Internet operated by Tyson Shared Services.



Next to it, VistaJet's Challenger 350 9H-VCM



Parked near tail-on over on the west edge of the main apron, was Pilatus PC-12 OY-EUR. While you can get a clear view of the whole apron from the employee's car park fence, they are not always ideally parked for photography.



Also over on the west side of the apron was Valair's Phenom 100 CS-DVS which taxied out and departed.



Cessna 208B Caravan I landed, parked beside Tayside Aviation's hangar and after a fairly brief visit, departed.



From the football fields parking area, Citation 550 Citation Bravo G-CGEI on finals



Cherokee Turbo Arrow G-WEND in full Tayside colours landing



N221HJ a second Falcon 7X landing



Another Tayside Cherokee, this one still wearing BAW style colours from former owners Aviation Aero Associates at Booker is G-EGTB (the ICAO code for Booker)

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EDINBURGH, Wednesday 3rd October,
prior to departure 1500-1655

G-CELV	Boeing 737-377	        Jet 2, parked
G-EUYI	Airbus A.320-232	British Airways
G-EZIW	Airbus A.319-111	EasyJet, Linate billboard
G-EZOK	Airbus A.320-214	EasyJet, old scheme
G-EZTE	Airbus A.320-214	EasyJet, bandana
G-GDFW	Boeing 737-8K5	        Jet 2
G-JECL	DHC-8-402 Dash Eight	Flybe, old blue cols
G-LCYI	Embraer RJ.170-100STD	British Airways
G-LGNB	SAAB SF.340B	        Loganair
D-ABFO	Airbus A.320-214	Eurowings
EI-FSK	ATR-72-600	        Stobart, all white
EI-FSL	ATR-72-600	        Stobart, all white
EI-FVU	Boeing 737-800    	Norwegian
EI-FYH	Boeing 737-MAX8  	Norwegian
EI-GJT	Boeing 737-800   	Ryanair
F-HBXK	Embraer RJ.170-100LR	Hop! For Air France
N273SW	Falcon 2000EX	
OE-IJE	Airbus A.320-214 (G-EZUD)  EasyJet, bandana
OE-IVV	Airbus A.320-214 (G-EZPC)  EasyJet, Europcar billboard
OO-SSN	Airbus A.319-112	Brussels Airlines
TC-LCA	Boeing 737-MAX8  	Turkish Airlines
YR-FKA	Fokker 100	        Carpatair
	plus two more Dash 8s of Flybe, purple scheme & new purple (presumed G-JECP).	
	plus 5 x Boeing 737F on freight, incl. two Bluebird in different schemes & West Atlantic.

Departing just as I reached the window at the west end of the terminal (near Gate 3) that I have used before, Flybe Dash 8 (I assume G-JECP) in the latest Flybe colours (or is it just a revision of their purple scheme ?) departed. A rushed photo, not one of my best. When I used this location back in May it was a grey misty, cloudy day - on a brighter day with sunny intervals, reflection, dirty patches and the double glazing all combined to make photography hit or miss. With mixed success and a number of images deleted, I persevered.



Loganair's latest and attractive scheme on Saab SF.340B G-LGNB



In contrast, Stobart's 'non-scheme' on ATR-72-600 EI-FSL



A simple but attractive scheme, Hop! for Air France ERJ-170-100 F-HBXK



There never seem to be many biz-jets around on the ground when I pass through Edinburgh, or maybe I am just looking in the wrong place? Falcon 2000EX N273SW taxiing past after landing was the only one I saw.



Eurowings Airbus a.320 D-ABFO arriving



A recently delivered Norwegian Airlines Boeing 737-MAX8 EI-FYW - note the fluted rear of the engine nacelles, making recognising a Boeing MAX easier than an Airbus neo.



Putting my little Canon compact to use again from an A seat, here is Brussels Airlines Airbus A.319 OO-SSN seen from Ryanair's EI-GJT on push-back.



Four of the 5 Boeing 737Fs day-stopping on the freight apron. Two Bluebird in different schemes and logo, a white one and West Atlantic nearest.




Left Edinburgh for Malaga in cloud which covered Southern Scotland and Northern England. Looked out was surprised by the near straight cloud front as seen from cruising height. Grabbed the camera to make a record, then got to thinking about where we were. Sandy beach could be Morecambe Bay or Lancashire, a lake right on the coast and a pier - yes, I knew exactly where we were, so wind out the times factor and another late afternoon shot:



Southport, beach, Pier and boating lake from 37,000ft. By the time we were over Liverpool, disappointly the cloud was again blocking any view.



Initially thought looking out of the aircraft that this was the South Devon coast around the Dawlish, Teignmouth area - but now looking at a map the details don't fit and the airfield (although likely disused) creates a challenge. Could be the north Bay of Biscay French coast around Lorient though?



A fitting final shot for this trip, sunset colours over mid Spain at 37,000ft.

[spitfire250]

You're right about Lorient, Brian. Still active and mainly used for light civil traffic and the aeronavale base, although it isn't uncommon to have it used by the French E-3 fleet for ILS approaches, hence the runway length.

[John Jones]

Hi Brian
After looking at google earth you are right ,the last aerial shot is Lorient - Lann-bihoué Airport
56270 Ploemeur
France
John

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Yes, I too have been looking, using the Satellite Map setting on FR24. The late afternoon shadows conceal many of the buildings, hard standings and taxiways for a modern military base, which was my initial for reason for doubt as the river estuary behind fitted the bill for Lorient. Still got two short posts to go to enter all the photos I want to use on nwan from that weekend - have a couple of French airfields from the earlier north-bound flight, one defying identification at present. One post will be added to the Toulouse thread, another to the 'Other Transport' section. All my Scottish images that I want to share are now posted.

As Admin I can see the sense in some wanting to keep non-aviation shots out of the 'Daily threads' for Liverpool and Manchester, however I feel that (in moderation) non-aircraft shots can add to the interest of 'travelogue' style posts in 'Further Afield' reports and the 'Nostalgia' sections. I have no problem about dropping in the odd shot out of an aircraft window, airport buildings etc - but will slot my trams into 'Other transport'

It was a good aviation couple of days, even if that was not the real reason for the visit to Scotland. East Fortune was a real wallow in personal aviation nostalgia, as I could find a connection between myself and many of the exhibits. The routing via Toulouse was a real bonus and would not have even been thought of if airlines operated Malaga-Glasgow or Edinburgh with a sensible daytime arrival on the days I wanted to travel.

Thanks for looking at this thread, hope you enjoy the variety of images on offer and wry smile at some of the captions.

[rmr]

Brian. Your glider 591 is RAF Germany Gliding Association 591 c/n 209.

RMR