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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:22:23 GMT 1
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Post by viscount on Sept 11, 2019 19:30:07 GMT 1
The subject of Mosquito TA634/G-AWJV and its time at Liverpool 1963-1970 is covered on thread: derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/2946The other film 'serial' referred to was HJ896. I'll get round to restoring the 'vandalised' Photobucket images in the next couple of days, hopefully. |
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Post by John Jones on Sept 11, 2019 20:33:34 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 22:01:13 GMT 1
Nice shot John. Must have been immediately prior to being painted for the film. Brian are you sure it wasn't HJ898? I can't find any photos of HJ896 but there are two of 898. What's also interesting is I've seen all the photos of TA634 on NWAN and not one has HJ614 as a reg. Could this registration been applied after it arrived back from filming for still shots or further filming that was cancelled? Could be that it was too expensive to change the HT-G for close up shots and therefore HJ614, 896, and 898 amongst others are all correct. The shots I've found of 898. www.aviationphotocompany.com/img/s/v-3/p2250697000-4.jpgwww.aviationphotocompany.com/img/s/v-3/p1423863313-4.jpgAnd another of TA634 at Speke. Unfortunately, ruined by copyright. Cant understand these people who are obviously so proud of there photographs that they want to share them on the internet but ruin them in this way. It doesn't matter what you do to your photos (for the determined) there is software out there that will remove it. If you don't want your photos used for commercial reasons then make it clear by writing at the bottom, side, or top but please don't ruin them for the ordinary person on the street like you and me. c8.alamy.com/comp/B4FW12/aircraft-de-havilland-dh98-mosquito-ta634-arrives-at-liverpool-airport-B4FW12.jpg |
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Post by viscount on Sept 11, 2019 23:14:22 GMT 1
The reference to HJ896 comes from MAS 'Flypast' for July 1968 (published within days of aircraft arriving back at Speke). The detail also appeared in a Ken Ellis history of the aircraft, but a quick sweep of the book shelf does not immediately reveal which one. Subsequently found it to be Ken Ellis's 'British Museum Aircraft', which supplied most of the dates and details for the history outlined on the NWAN thread linked-to above, including the HJ896 reference. HOWEVER, while hunting for the sources for my information, I looked in error at another Ken Ellis/MAS book 'In Uniform' and found a history there for G-MOSI/G-ASKH G-ASKA/RS709. For the earlier film 'Mosquito Squadron' 633 Squadron (1963) this aircraft appeared in various guises including HR113:HT-D and HJ898/HT-G'. It was not used in the later 'Mosquito Squadron' (1968) filming. So two different aircraft have worn similar serial/code combinations, albeit for different films. The 1968 'Mosquito Squadron' did make use of 'out-takes' from the 1963 '633 Squadron', which would explain the need to duplicate code details for continuity purposes.
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Post by jetdragon on Sept 12, 2019 6:59:49 GMT 1
I found a history there for G-MOSI/G-ASKH/RS709. For the earlier film 'Mosquito Squadron' (1963) this aircraft appeared in various guises including HR113:HT-D and HJ898/HT-G'. G-ASKH was the Broughton Mossie RR299 |
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Post by viscount on Sept 12, 2019 8:28:22 GMT 1
Sorry, two errors there in the same sentence. Now corrected in my original post, but remain incorrect in the quote. Should have stated 'G-ASKA' as the 633 Squadron film civilian identity for RS709.
For many years after filming, indeed even after complete respray, RR299/G-ASKH continued to wear camouflage colours and the '633 Squadron' film code HT-E along with her real military identity, rather than a film one.
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Post by groth45 on Sept 12, 2019 20:37:27 GMT 1
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Post by viscount on Sept 12, 2019 21:19:42 GMT 1
Wouldn't mind a go at acquiring those, within a reasonable price. I'm not an e-bayer. Advice or anyone who thrives on the excitement of the chase willing to bid, within my limits, on this batch of photos for me?
I also have the handicap that the e-bay link comes to me fully in Spanish!
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Post by groth45 on Sept 12, 2019 21:34:10 GMT 1
Viscount, If you move your pointer to click on the ebay photo to expand it to full page and using'Save As'the picture(s) can then be saved to your PC. GR
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Post by viscount on Sept 12, 2019 21:41:04 GMT 1
Groth, it is more that I would very much like to use the photo as mine, rather than copy and paste to the Internet without the rights to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 23:43:30 GMT 1
Excellent research once again Brian. It's interesting to know that the two locally based Mosquito's bore the same fictional squadron markings. I find it puzzling that in the film the registrations (that can be seen) are in black, yet I recall HJ614 being in red. As per your photograph of RR299. I note that there are 6 days before the eBay auction you refer to ends. Firstly, you'll need to open an eBay account (it's free) and a PayPal one if you don't already have that. As it's a specialist item I can't see many people wanting to bid for this. However, you have now made it known to the internet community that you want this item (possible a big mistake). I find it best to place a bid in the last 3 seconds of the auction but you can still be outbid due to eBay's cunningness of telling competitors that they have been outbid and allowing them to make an auto bid higher than mine/yours. With this being a specialist bid I'd suggest that you bid the asking price of the item about an hour before the auction ends if no-one else has done so. That way, you might be able to tell if anyone else is interested as they could counter bid. Do not be tempted to bid early as eBay suggest as this will only encourage others (possibly new to eBay, like you to out bid each other and rise the price significantly) to bid against you. Even though you have placed your bid an hour earlier (don't bid if someone already has, you don't want to encourage competition, stealth is the key), you will need to bid again within the last few seconds, regardless if no-one else has (but not for the asking price, as before i.e. use the increase your bid option). Discounting what you or anyone else has bid you will need to place a bid to the highest amount that you are willing to pay for the item within the last few seconds and hope it exceeds your competitor. Don't worry about having to pay the highest price your prepared to pay as you will only pay a set price above your competitors maximum/final bid if that is lower than yours, see eBay's terms and conditions and instructions on bidding. Remember, don't be fooled by eBays recommendation of bidding early, this will only increase the price to you and give them more commission on the item. Unfortunately, as a newbie your in a shark infested pool here. The only thing you have going for you here is it's a specialist item and not may people will want it. If you don't intend to make financial gain from the negatives or publish them in a magazine etc but want them for your own personal enjoyment, I'd suggest you follow Groth45's advice before the auction ends. Your photo of RR299 with red registration doc-08-7s-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/5h0j9juknu0r87c9ho9u623bo6lv9q08/1568318400000/02779061105187454006/*/1stuZ_WNPwtmvAhQt26FavpAm-hSqxbFE (in July 2021 this link is showing as 'access denied'.) |
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Post by radiostationx on Sept 13, 2019 5:45:23 GMT 1
I also have the handicap that the e-bay link comes to me fully in Spanish! Localisation issue or tracking cookie kicking in to show page in users "home" language, Try this edited link Brian www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133169214660? |
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Post by viscount on Sept 13, 2019 8:25:27 GMT 1
Thanks 'RadiostationX'. Using your edited link, it still comes through in Spanish. Not too much of a problem.
On the subject of last second bids on ebay, is there a delay on internet signals due to distance? I find that a satellite fed tv is several seconds ahead of an internet fed tv signal. I have both systems located in different rooms and the delay is very evident - or in ebay terms is the time difference delay Spain-UK insignificant?
In response to a point on an earlier post on this topic drift, I was hoping that by expressing my desire to purchase I would put off any NWAN member also showing interest, being as you point out the items have a fairly specialist appeal limited to Mosquito aircraft and Liverpool Airport in the 60s.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 10:40:11 GMT 1
Unless you've put an early bid in for this Brian, you've got competition. Don't be tempted to bid on it as all you'll do is start a price war. eBay will be delighted if you do that but the cost to you and your competitor will only increase. Another problem you will have is if a third party is interested because all they will do is sit back watch the price go up and, if it's within their means, they will out bid you both in the last few seconds. Never be tempted to place an automatic bit if you can bid live on the day (sometimes you have to take that risk but I've lost out so many times by doing that). Your competitor will keep placing bids until they find out what your maximum was and you will lose out. Time delay could be a problem if your outside the UK but as you can read the page in Spanish it may not be if there is a local server. I would advice that you study a few auctions that are coming to an end just to see how many bids come in at the last few seconds. You can also see the bid history of the item buy clicking on to the number of bids.
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