|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 17:47:34 GMT 1
Post by Biggles on Sept 19, 2012 17:47:34 GMT 1
Whilst listening to some Santa Maria aviation HF today 12.50 noon I was as shocked as the controller appeared to be, when he got a call from a flight using then call-sign " Ryanair 8FH" requesting an oceanic clearance, the SM Controller asked to clarify the CS several times and then asked for an airline name to make it clearer. Never heard a RYR on HF before especially SM.
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 18:17:50 GMT 1
Post by john1958 on Sept 19, 2012 18:17:50 GMT 1
Where was he from/to Biggles? John
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 18:48:50 GMT 1
Post by viscount on Sept 19, 2012 18:48:50 GMT 1
Was he calling "Ryan Air" or "Ryanair" - makes a difference between a US operator and the better known in Europe, Irish airline?
RYA XY Ryan Air Services "Ryan Air" RYN HS Ryan International "Ryan International" RYR FR Ryanair of Ireland "Ryanair"
Well that's what my, addmittedly out of date, code book states.
HF is not my field. Would a Ryanair from say Dublin to Tenerife, flying around, out to sea, off Spain require an Oceanic Clearance - or are such clearances purely trans-Atlantic.
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 19:35:10 GMT 1
Post by speedbird1960 on Sept 19, 2012 19:35:10 GMT 1
Hi Biggles. I think Viscount might have the answer as they would need Oceanic clearance because of the route RYR8FH takes from the Canary Islands to Edinburgh. HF AVIATION FREQUENCIES (USB) NORTH ATLANTIC ROUTE - A Canary Islands, Gander, New York Paramaribo, Piarco, Santa Maria & Shanwick 30126, 5598, 8906, 13306, 17946 kHz. Source: www.g4nsj.co.uk/air.shtmlHere it is on Playback: fr24.com/2012-09-19/14:22/RYR8FH (Link valid until 17/10/12)
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 21:12:47 GMT 1
Post by Biggles on Sept 19, 2012 21:12:47 GMT 1
Thanks again guys, superb response again. It was an O`Leary flight, and I presume as with most HF the tx and rx are very weather/atmospheric dependant so. maybe the use of Santa Maria HF ATC was out of the ordinary or just this controller. Edinburgh - Canary Islands could answer the route clearance. As I said not a usual flight for me to hear during day time when HF is usually pretty poor.F I also heard an oldy c/s C-FTGX with SM reporting level 190 and a position report. A net search reveals a very nice looking DC-3 with unusual engines.
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 21:38:27 GMT 1
Post by john1958 on Sept 19, 2012 21:38:27 GMT 1
Basler BT-67 conversion no less!!!!! :-)
John
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 21:39:28 GMT 1
Post by john1958 on Sept 19, 2012 21:39:28 GMT 1
Just thinking about this, I used to try and listen to HF on my yupiteru MVT7100....although that was MANY years ago, and I can't remember how to do it!!!! :-)
John
|
|
|
HF
Sept 19, 2012 23:03:29 GMT 1
Post by Biggles on Sept 19, 2012 23:03:29 GMT 1
I did use and still own a Lowe HF225 with a telescopic antenna and got good reception, I spent many hours listening into USAF and RAF TX especially during the Iraqi and Bosnia conflicts. Since the invention of ATC on the PC and Laptop world I tend to use a site "LiveATC" which is real time world wide. combining it with things like FlightRadar24 and Planefinder opens up a huge area. Re listening to HF, it is usually SSB or single side band and Gander, Shannon, NY and Santa Maria work a primary and secondary set of frequencies for Oceanic traffic. examples are 5616, 5649, 8906, 11306. Finding out which is being used can be as simple as listening to Shannon VHF high level freqs when the traffic is outbound, when given clearance they will be given the current HF frequency in use. US Military use many HF but a common start point is 11176 and 15016. RAF start point used to be 4742 callsign Architect. www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=all
|
|