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Post by andyh on Jul 27, 2009 18:04:45 GMT 1
Just been having a quick look at Ryanair's flights for Feb / March 2010. My first quick trawl suggests they currently have 139 flights pwk loaded - not sure how that compares with last winter - using 6 based aircraft.
Non-based aircraft are used on Belfast City, Milan, Shannon and Stockholm.
Interestingly the schedules are showing Belfast City going up to 3 flights a day (one using a Belfast-based machine), Dublin at 24 flights a week (fourth flight on Fr, Sa and Su) and Cork up to 9 per week with an extra flight on a Friday and Sunday.
Routes showing so far are: -
Alicante (7pwk); Belfast City (21), Bydgoszcz (2), Carcassone (2)
Cork (9), Derry (7), Dublin (24), Girona (4), Knock (7), Krakow (3)
Limoges (3), Malaga (7), Milan (4), Murcia (3), Oslo (7), Palma (2)
Poznan (2), Riga (4), Rome (3), Shannon (7), Stockholm (2)
Tenerife (3), Venice (2) and Wroclaw (4)
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Post by tonyspeke on Jul 27, 2009 18:45:10 GMT 1
Good to see Shannon back up to daily and 7-a-week to Oslo is surprising.
Not yet listed are Granada, Nantes, Pisa and Reus.
Alicante and Malaga are up from last winter to daily. Others are reduced by the odd flight or two.
No doubt any ski flights will appear later.
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Post by andyh on Jul 28, 2009 15:05:48 GMT 1
The Ryanair route map is now showing links from Liverpool to Lanzarote and Gran Canaria - nothing showing yet in the booking engine. This could account for some of the gaps in the winter schedule.
Perhaps they have 'made up' with the respective airport operators as a number of new Canaries routes are shown...?
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Post by ametyst on Jul 28, 2009 17:09:59 GMT 1
Ryanair are dropping the Manchester to Shannon service from 25th October with the 4 weekly flights transferring to Liverpool to make a Daily operation from Liverpool once again.
With regards to the Canaries, it will be the first time that Ryanair has operated schedules to Las Palmas or Lanzarote. The Canary Island that Ryanair had a "beef" with was Fuerteventura.
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Post by andyh on Jul 29, 2009 9:32:46 GMT 1
Official announcement regarding the new routes is now on the Ryanair website but not yet in the booking engine so no detail on days of operation. Routes start in October.
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Post by bill on Jul 29, 2009 9:50:44 GMT 1
Now bookable: Gran Canaria(LPA) Monday & Friday; Lanzarote(ACE) Tuesday & Saturday.
Both as Tenerife timings eg. 0600 dep LPL.
Going head to head with EZY on the ACE route, wonder if they'll put a TFS on in retaliation.
Bill
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Post by lplflyer on Jul 29, 2009 10:17:18 GMT 1
I've spent some time trying to figure out the Ryanair winter program. From what I can see, the Milan/BGY, Stockholm/NYO, most of the Shannon and the morning Belfast/BHD are all to be operated by non-based aircraft.
As has been commented here and rumoured elsewhere (together with a brief appearance on the Ryanair website route map yesterday) it looks like routes LPL-LPA and LPL-ACE may be on their way. Noting that they operate LPL-TFS thrice a week in winter, one would assume that the LPA and the ACE would probably be only one or two a week each.
I am also wondering what has happened to the Liverpool ski routes...there doesn't seem to be any sign of Friedrichshafen, Grenoble, Turin (where I know they're holding slots for a Day6 only operation), Salzburg (don't think they've ever operated this from LPL anyway?) etc, so I am wondering if there is a small batch of additional routes to come.
The oddest thing seems to be on a sunday, where the current schedule has no less than 9 aircraft departing first thing (schedules from a week in middle of Jan 2010):
FR9895 0630 to Cork
FR9818 0730 to Limoges
FR9646 0615 to Krakow
FR9497 0745 to Cork
FR9644 0630 to Rome/CIA
FR9606 0630 to Riga
FR1135 0720 to Shannon
...whilst my immediate assumption is that the Cork schedule is wrong (they must be nuts to put two flights so close together on a Sunday morning!), the rest of the schedules for the day appear to indicate a 9th aircraft, whilst none of the other days do.
I am wondering whether, to prove a point to BAA Stansted as much as anything (and assuming they get free parking at LPL) they are considering moving one of the STN aircraft up to LPL during the winter - if it has a little bit of flying on the weekends etc and then free parking the rest of the time (I'll wager they don't park totally for free at STN) then this might be a plausible option?
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Post by ametyst on Jul 29, 2009 10:33:08 GMT 1
LPLFlyer, your list shows 7 aircraft departing 1st thing on a Sunday, not 9! and presuming cork is a mistake then I gues that will be the 6 based aircraft covered.
Ryanair has operated a Liverpool to Salzburg Service in the past but this finished in April 2008 as did Friedrichshafen. Neither route operated during the winter 2008/2009 Ski season.
Services are now bookable on Ryanair's new routes from Liverpool to Las Palmas (every Monday & Friday from 26/10) and Lanzarote (every Tuesday & Saturday from 27/10). both service will operate at a twice weekly frequency.
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Post by andyh on Jul 29, 2009 11:05:55 GMT 1
The dates I looked at where a bit later than LPLflyer's - end of Feb to Mid March. Sundays do indeed suggest 7 based aircraft: -
0745 dep Cork
0630 dep Dublin
0615 dep Krakow
0730 dep Limoges
0630 dep Riga
0630 dep Rome
0720 dep Shannon
In addition, if the times currently quoted for the new LPA flights and the Saturday ACE flight are correct that also requires a 7th aircraft.
At the moment GCA is showing dep 0600 rtn 1455 on M & Fr; ACE is showing dep 0635 rtn 1525 (tu) and dep 1405 rtn 2255 (sa).
Having said that we're talking over 7 months away so the schedules will no doubt incorporate a degree of fiction!! If times were adjusted the Monday and Saturday flights could be accomodated. However as far as I can tell there are no gaps in the schedules on a Friday to fit the additional service in?
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Post by sfp on Jul 29, 2009 12:20:53 GMT 1
At today's Press Conference held in Liverpool Ryanair announced for the winter: Bratislava - 3 per week Arrecife - 2 per week Las Palmas - 2 per week Rzeszow - 2 per week and Faro - 3 per week Also referred to increased frequencies on Alicante, Belfast City, and retaining Kaunas and others for the winter. The Canaries announcement can be found at: www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=jul&story=gen-en-290709No references to some of the previous information posted, when questioned the Ryanair representative stated that they are still finalising the winter schedules. The fact that AENA the Spanish airports authority are prepared to allow no airport charges (dues) is central to the Ryanair strategy Confirmed 7 aircraft based for the winter |
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Post by lplflyer on Jul 29, 2009 15:27:45 GMT 1
current schedule has no less than 9 aircraft departing first thing Sorry, can't count! Good to hear of all of the extra new routes, but I'm still a bit surprised that there are virtually no ski routes. I guess this indicative both of the current economic climate and also might point to EZY having already established virtual control of the LPL "DIY-Ski" market prior to the entry of Ryanair at Liverpool? |
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Post by harbourcotter on Jul 29, 2009 16:34:24 GMT 1
This is great news in the current climate. Unfortunately the biased BBC reported this very churlishly on the 7 a.m. news (it was not mentioned after that).
It was along the lines of 2 new routes from Liverpool but this is in the face of major cuts by ryanair 'on its other services from liverpool' and then went into the stansted reductions. Absolutely appalling bias shown again from the BBC. Never let the facts get in the way of downgrading any good news from the area.
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Jul 29, 2009 17:07:37 GMT 1
I bet the BBC did not include the reduction in services from Manchester to Shannon in the same report. It is usual within media circles to include relevant information and as the Manchester reductions come into effect at approximately the same time as the Liverpool increases, you would expect them to be mentioned. How silly of me to think like that - there is an opening here to denigrate Liverpool and ignore the negative Manchester story so they have, naturally, taken it. Excuse my cynicism. Overall this is good news for Liverpool and, what with the other new routes being brought into being despite the recession, the airport management team are to be congratulated.
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Post by johnoakes on Jul 29, 2009 22:35:03 GMT 1
 Twas ever thus. No coincidence its always happening. Good job we still have the best football team in Britain.
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Post by dougss on Jul 30, 2009 5:27:55 GMT 1
;D Twas ever thus. No coincidence its always happening. Good job we still have the best football team in Britain. Everton ? yes, your correct |
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