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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2009 15:17:14 GMT 1
Here's a topic that comes up regularly and should this Government get re-elected and impose its equal opportunities bill on us, will have every last white male (who will have no rights whatsoever) flocking to the ports and airports. Its a good to know that should this happen there's hope of a brighter future for us and our families (should our - more equal than men - women wish to join us) abroad. But before we all rush off to join Ron, John, and the other 6m or so, here's a little more about it. money.uk.msn.com/consumer/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149599101Would the last one out; please turn off the light. |
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Post by johnoakes on Sept 10, 2009 22:27:05 GMT 1
 Somehow rural France seem so less full of foreigners than Britain. Don't know how that is but we sure feel it. The President visited a local town today (Culoz)and we had the CRS at every junction --very ugly ---very heavily armed--and VERY organised. And he such a little man.LOL No one would imagine Mr.Brown would need or deserve such protection. As they say--A good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un. BUT you don't have to weigh or measure the best. WE have never had to consider education here in France but our current long stay guests are British coming to France after a stay in Canada(with 8 months winter--not for me!) and they find the system very good for their 9 and 7 year olds. A 6 million population drain and yet our numbers in Britain are reaching new heights--wonder where they are coming from--another chapter in the Blair legacy. I worked in Bradford ,I have seen the future --escape before they shut the doors by edict of Sharia law.LOL
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Post by ronturner on Sept 11, 2009 8:56:39 GMT 1
Yes, I love it here, in rural France, but its not the bed of roses everywhere in France that some would make you think. Here in The Vendée we live in the second most safe department of France, We have no large scale industries drawing in workers, migrant or otherwise and no significant Muslim population. I cannot say that about the big cities. You cannot walk safely in parts of Paris, Lyon, Marseilles, just like you cannot in parts of London, Manchester and Glasgow. (My brother in law was mugged in Lyon.)
Yes, life is better here if you consider the important things like the position of the family, the standard of education and the super health care.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that France is free of Muslims. Far from it. France hosts Europe's largest Muslim population, in numbers and percentage. (And also Europe's largest Jewish population too.) The great man himself, General De Gaulle, after the failure to hold Algeria in the early 60's, invited those who wanted to come to France to do so, and become French citizens. Over 5 million did:. mostly Muslim Arabs who had worked for France in Algeria. This is 5 times the number in UK even today. Experts predict that with a falling birth rate amongst the "French" and over double amongst the "ethnics" that France will become, in less than 30 years time, the first country in Europe to have a majority Muslim population. This is just one reason why the French are determined, too late actually, to ban the visual trappings of Islam in our streets. schools and public places. Message! If you want to escape Islam for you and your family, choose somewhere other than France.
(But I still love it here. I have found paradise in my little corner...and the sun is still cracking the flags..)
RT
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Post by johnoakes on Sept 12, 2009 8:52:44 GMT 1
 In Britain we do NOT have 5 times fewer Moslems than France. We do not even know how many there are in Britainexcept it is too many. I am not a blinkered Francophile but there is NOWHERE in France like Bradford. There is nowhere in France like West Yorkshire or North West Lancashire.--where Sharia law has been exercised from closed Mosques until discovered.(bet that wasn't publicised nationally.) Living in Malmesbury with no contact from the Moslem world other than westernised middle class professionals can make you look back on your days in Britain rather fondly. At the sharp end where ithe invasion is really having a profound effect on the daily lives of the British people it is entirely a different story.-and thre working class are takiing the brunt. Parts of our country are a total no go area to white Christian males. A local curate of the Cof E church near my last school in Brasford was put up against a wall in his own parish and told to keep out of the district as it was a moslem area now.(the school had 334 pupils-all Moslem) I regularly visit Lyon and have never had a moment of trouble--Bradford however is a totally different story and my recent visit to Nelson in Lancashire felt like a visit to the Swat valley. My brother in law lives in Dewsbury and that is a similar scene. Note where the BNP have a presence--not in the West country-but plenty in the areas mentioned. Logical isn't it. It is the wakening of our people and a backlash. People think that the BNP are the only group prepared to actually do something about what is in fact an invasion and takeover of our birthright. Reality is we will not face up to the problems .
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Post by davel on Sept 12, 2009 10:50:16 GMT 1
John, you've just confirmed what I was secretly afraid of, in Liverpool thankfully, we do not see the extent of the takeover of areas of British towns and cities nationwide by the muslims. I've worked in many parts of the country, where I was in the minority, i.e. Christian and white, places like Small Heath in Birmingham, Preston, Bradford, Leicester and Gloucester. I do not support the BNP in anyway but I wish some party would start sticking up for me and stop pandering to the minorities, for in the not too distant future you will find they are in the majority. (Was Enoch Powell right?)
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Post by ronturner on Sept 12, 2009 16:04:12 GMT 1
Fact. There are far more Muslims in France than in UK, and more per ratio of population or area or any other measure you may care to mention. At the last census 8.9% of the population.
Fact. French Muslims are more likely to regard themselves as French first and Muslim second. (It is the opposite in UK.)
Fact. "French" people do not regard Muslims as French, although strangely enough French people, mainly from the left of course, have a very soft spot for the "sans papiers"
Fact. Right wing politicians in France, such as Le Penn and my friend Philippe De Villiers have always attracted more votes in percentage terms than those from the right parties in UK. (Up to now.) Why do you think that is?
Fact. In France we do not see the excesses of Muslim "culture" if that word can be used about barbarians, but this does not hide the fact that we have more of them here than in the UK.
Fact. The French government have come out against Turkey being a member of the EEC. They have, at last woken up to the dangers of this still relatively quiet, but huge potential problem in out midst.
Let us hope that Sarkosy and his mates can be persuaded to make a visit to Bradford.
Living in The Cotswolds isolated me from the EFFECTS of the Muslim take over of the UK, but not the knowledge of it. In the same way, I like to be aware of the scale of the problem, both now and for the future in my adopted country. Make no mistake. France will be the first of the major European countries to go over, without a change of direction NOW. Ignore this information at your peril.
On a slightly different but related subject. The "West" will require the active assistance of the Christian Black countries, (including the USA and South America) to combat the march if Islam. It is about time that was recognized. Like the game of Campaign, some new alliances have to be made, and quickly
Ron
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Post by buspilot on Sept 12, 2009 20:18:28 GMT 1
There are many Muslims here in Spain.
However, they have been told by the Government that this is a Catholic Christian Country, if you don't like it leave.
In Fuengirola there is just one mosque. That's it, no more have or will be authorised. Plain clothes officers, visibly, frequently monitor the "worshipers" there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2009 22:32:52 GMT 1
As you might imagine, there aren't too many Muslims in Greece. I lived there during the time the airport was moved from Ellinikon to Sparta. The Muslims (an extremely small percentage of the population), asked for a mosque to be built. The Greek govt said "OK, there's a plot of land out near the airport which we can build it on."
"Oh no", they said, "It's much too far out."
"Yes, but we're improving the public transport to the airport, so it'll be no problem," they said. The Muslim community kicked up but the Greeks said, "It's that or nothing." The mosque was built, but despite its' apparent importance, I was told that it was not well supported. I haven't been back for a few years, but the last I heard, it still isn't well attended.
On the other subject, this politicians of all parties have to ask themselves how two BNP MEP candidates came to elected from the north-west in what was clearly a free and fair election. Was it because their name was first on the voting list? Probably not - I think it more accurately reflects the feelings of people in this corner of England. The may not like it, but they ignore it at their peril. I haven't heard one credible explanation for this as yet from any politician - only condemnation of the BNP, which is understandable, but doesn't address the issue.
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Post by johnoakes on Sept 13, 2009 8:27:52 GMT 1
Sorry Ron but you cannot compare figures from a country that has them to figures in a country that thinks it rascist to even have those figures. I accept your figures for France but you have NO idea how many legal or illegal colonists are in Britain--except that we have too many. The last school I worked in in Bradford was 2nd and 3rd generation --530 kids all moslem and there were 3 school like it on the same street. Many were families of 8 children with fathers who did not work but lived and bred quite happily on our tax benefits. Most of those children( AND THEY WERE PLEASANT INDIVIDUALS ) would LEGALLY marry from the sub continent and their spouses would also be granted a British passport. All this is the LEGAL side of the tidal wave. Do the maths and count on a couple of generations. Harlod Wilson (remember him?The guy who said."We will live in a multi racial society!) indicated that to keep counting the inflow was a racist act so we have NO reliable figures to measure the tidal wave of invaders.Even as far back as the 1960s--and some of us were creating about it even then if you remember. So again I do not doubt your figures for France nor your usual thoroughness in producing them--I would never expect less--but your comparison with Britain is totally invalid. We have no figures and I suspect it is because we would take to the streets in open revolt if we knew them--or is that already happening? Our Government is now running scared and is seeking to get votes from any corner they can find--at present they are courting the Moslem vote--despite a British protest against islamisation having to be protected in BRITAIN by our police from a potentially murdering mob of fanatics. A gay war hero is suddenly to be restored to his rightful place as a top code breaker--they have had 10 years to do this -what a coincidence- he is reinstated just before a crucial election--am I being cynical or what--I have no opinion on gays, they usually keep to themselves and live a private and quiet life and deserve to be left to get on with their lives but this plan to try to gain the gay vote is just too much. I wonder why we have 6 million living abroad and the French obviously do not? It may have something to do with the fact that the French are not threatened with being overwhelmed in their own counrty--we don't have the figures but our eyes are not yet blind. Stand up and be counted or soon --very soon--it will be too late.
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Post by ronturner on Sept 15, 2009 13:08:18 GMT 1
Well then John, I do not doubt your fears for the UK. I do not doubt your experiences in Bradfordistani and the like. At least in France, the corner is being fought by Le Penn and latterly by DeVilliers. (By the way, the latter being Vendéen, does not even like the French that much. The genocide of the Vendéen wars will not be forgotten whilst he is around.)
However, my point is that whereas you mention that my 30 years in The Cotswolds isolated me from the problems of many towns and cities in the UK, you somehow seem to be blind to the problems facing France. Just because you live in rural France, like me, and you do not see too much of the problems that exist in the towns and the cities, does not mean they are not there. The figures I have stated are true. Despite the situation in UK, bad as it is, France will be the first to have a majority Muslim population. This does not mean that it will become like the SWAT valley or Nelson, because "our" Muslims are from a more civilised part of the world, North Africa, and not the upper reaches of the sub continent. Even so. Muslims they are first and foremost. Don't fall into the trap that you accuse so many Brits of falling into. Just because you are in love with your new host country, you should try to avoid becoming too French and try not to follow the usual French trait of simply refusing to accept that anything unpalatable said about France can be the truth.
My goodness, I hope I am wrong, but I think not, and in any case, I will not be here to see it, and with my children living in USA and New Zealand, neither will they, at least not for a long while anyway.
And..I still love it here and would not go back for anything..... Now, I must get back to that glass of Chateau Cardinaux..its a Chateauneuf du Pappe but bought in bulk in the after "Appelation Contollee" market at third of the price. hic!.
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Post by johnoakes on Sept 16, 2009 10:28:48 GMT 1
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Glad you are still enjoying the Vendean lifestyle--as I said --I am not a blinkered francophile--you should see me when we beat them at rugby--its the comparison of like with like that is the problem.
Not an issue to fall out about.LOL
Sadly my daughter and grandson DO live in the UK and that is a concern.
Still they will work out their own future--children have a habit of doing that.LOL
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