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Post by digit on May 28, 2014 9:25:19 GMT 1
Not sure if this has been posted previously but the NATO Summit will be held at The Celtic Manor Resort, Newport, South Wales on 4th & 5th September.
No idea which airports will be involved but would hazard a guess at Rhoose, Filton and Lulsgate as likely contenders.
As an aside, this will be the first time a serving POTUS will have visited Wales!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 14:17:36 GMT 1
Well it won't be Filton, because it's closed. Given the large number of large aircraft which arrive for these events, I imagine that St Athan will be in contention, not least for security reasons, though it's runway might be a bit short for some of the larger beasts which turn up. Rhoose has a decent-sized runway and a disused runway which could be used for parking, but I suspect Lulsgate may be too far away and it requires a crossing of the River Severn and both bridges can be a real problem at times.
I am involved in the organisation of this to a small degree, but I haven't been told anything yet - I'm simply going by others I've been to. No doubt the President Of The US (POTUS) will arrive at Rhoose with the usual fanfare and the attendant convoy of vehicles...
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Post by digit on May 28, 2014 14:32:40 GMT 1
Well it won't be Filton, because it's closed. Doh, forgot about the Filton closure!
Thought about St Athan too and agree its good from a security point of view but wasn't sure of the remaining infrastructure for handling a number of visitors. Oh and not the easiest airfield from a spotters perspective at the best of times!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 15:25:41 GMT 1
Oh and not the easiest airfield from a spotters perspective at the best of times!Which is probably one reason why they'll use it!  A couple of Portakabins for immigration and customs (the formalities normally take place on board), and I suppose they could borrow some ground equipment from Brize, which is not too far away. In fact it occurs to me that some of the arrivals may go there anyway, especially the support teams for POTUS.
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Post by digit on Aug 20, 2014 13:38:09 GMT 1
Some info regarding spotting arrangements from the South Wales Aviation Group site:
THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM THE CAMBRIAN CLUB
As most people know the 2014 NATO conference takes place in Wales for the very first time. This will be high security event, with a high level of security forces, Police, PSCO’s and traffic wardens present over the days before and during the event.
Rhoose Road, Rhoose will be resident permit holders only, as issued by the Local council. There are a small number of places available for other vehicles near the white buildings, both employees of businesses’ present and those who have permits issued to them.
Seventy five places have been allocated to ‘Aircraft Enthusiasts’ on a first come first serve basis. This will include that all important permit if you have a vehicle – if a vehicle is parked anywhere in the vicinity of the Airport White Buildings / Rhoose Road, Rhoose without displaying a permit, it will be ticketed or clamped and released only upon payment of a fee. In certain circumstances, vehicles will be removed at the owners expense. The Local authority are ensuring that several hundred extra car parking spaces are made available during the event and will be arranging signage accordingly.
It is intended to open the Cambrian Café Bar at the following times:
Tuesday – 2nd September 2014 – Normal hours 0900-1600
Wednesday – 3rd September 2014 – 0600-2000
Thursday- 4th September 2014 – 0600-1800
Friday-5th September 2014 – 0800-2000
Tickets are £25 per day for the 3-5th September and are available to purchase each day at our premises with all the necessary details to be taken at the time of purchase. You can buy individual entry on particular days or multiples of days along with the car parking permits – all on a first come first serve basis. Three day tickets will go on sale Saturday/Sunday 23/24th August 2014 – you must turn up in person and bring Photo ID to purchase these tickets.
For those turning up at the premises on each day of the event, tickets will be sold on a first come first serve basis, if any remain available. Once the allocated tickets are sold no-one else will be allowed access to the premises. Please do not ring us in advance as this is the only method of sale authorised to take place during the event. The premises will remain open each day of the conference from the times shown above.
No food will be provided in the entrance fee, however those who bring their own food and drink will be removed and have no further access during the event. Any liquids being taken into the premises will be removed and destroyed in accordance with security requirements.
To gain access there is a Police stop check at Rhoose Road and to the entrance at the cafe – your luggage will be checked for any items deemed a security risk, and you MUST provide photographic ID. (passport/D.Licence). You will not be allowed access otherwise.
DO NOT FORGET THIS IS A HIGH SECURITY EVENT and it is to be expected that delays may take place, we ask all our customers and guests to be tolerant of all local business’s close by and patient whilst they are checked upon arrival. DO NOT PARK IN ANY OF THE ALLOCATED PARKING SPACES outside the white building.
EXTRA: It is understood the Airport also intend to set up a section or sections of ground somewhere on the south side for 'enthusiasts' to gather and enjoy whatever visitors attend.
Will be interesting to see the other options when they are announced.
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Post by digit on Aug 21, 2014 17:02:29 GMT 1
Further update from the SWAG site, there is also an on-line poll so they can gauge the number of potential spotters visiting:
EXTRA: It is understood the Airport also intend to set up a section or sections of ground somewhere on the south side for 'enthusiasts' to gather and enjoy whatever visitors attend. With thanks to staff at Cardiff Airport and the Website we can now update this. The Vale of Glamorgan Council will be providing a private parking area at the PORTHKERRY Caravan site which is at the end of runway 30 for aviation enthusiasts visiting Cardiff Airport for the NATO conference. Please refer to Cardiff-airport.com and then MEDIA and NEWS for the full press release about parking restrictions etc. We will make enquiries about times and any costs as soon as possible
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Post by mb on Aug 21, 2014 19:55:12 GMT 1
If this jamboree had to be held in Wales why didn't they hold it all within RAF Valley?
After all it's only a conference not a freebee beano,isn't it??.
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Post by Cityflyer on Aug 24, 2014 15:35:38 GMT 1
An update from the South Wales Aviation Group Facebook Page
The Vale of Glamorgan Council will be providing a private parking area at the Porthkerry Caravan site, which is at the end of runway 30, for aviation enthusiasts. Temporary road signs will direct visitors to the site.
The car park will open 14:00 2nd September and 06:00 Wednesday 3rd - Friday 5th September.
The parking fee will be £3.00 per car with all proceeds being donated to charity by the owners.
@ £3.00 per Car and you can take your own food & Drink compared to £25.00 at the café bar, a place where the owner has BARRED most of the local Spotters, one of whom was barred for stating that the £15.oo admission for the French Rugby Airlift was excessive!!
So Radio Cardiff will play the Les Mis song "Empty Chairs & Empty Tables especially for the Owner of the Cambrian Café Bar!!!
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Post by digit on Aug 28, 2014 9:24:25 GMT 1
I've been informed that all visiting US aircraft will go into Fairford, a contingent of USMC machines comprising 4 x MV22s and 2 x KC130Js have arrived at FFD.
Anyone got any more info?
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Post by digit on Aug 28, 2014 14:24:04 GMT 1
a contingent of USMC machines comprising 4 x MV22s and 2 x KC130Js have arrived at FFD.
The Marine Corps KC130s have departed this afternoon.
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