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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 17:03:51 GMT 1
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Post by Biggles on Apr 22, 2010 22:49:42 GMT 1
Not much of Britain or its builidngs or business`s will be left soon in the hands of Britains it seems ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2010 3:44:42 GMT 1
I wonder which of the other four major bus operators will be next? National Express are only holding on by a very thin thread and get my vote with Stagecoach (having noted what they said when they pulled out of London) following close behind.
If that happens then over two thirds of our countries transport infrastructure will no-longer be in British hands. Having said that consolidation within the transport industry is nothing new. What is new are the geographical boundaries. Following the first world war right up to Nationalisation small bus and rail companies were swallowed up by their larger rivals. This lead to the creation of rail giants such as LMS/LNER and the likes of Ribble/Crossville on the bus side.
Whats happening today is the larger companies are having to look further afield to acquire companies within their own sectors in order to remain competitive and keep their shareholders happy. British companies are looking to expand abroad and vise versa. The creation of the European Union has simply removed the once hard to get round geographic boundaries. So, depending on your view of where you fit in within this ever expanding modern world, Arriva who operated in twelve other countries besides the UK may or may not have been taken over by a foreign company.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2010 8:02:56 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2010 8:21:50 GMT 1
Amazing isn't it? The German Railways clearly make enough money to be able to buy Arriva. Meanwhile, our heavily-unionised railways struggle to cope with any form of modernisation.
The German Post Office owns DHL, yet our Post Office system is in a mess. (Try looking for the counters behind the mounds of sweets, newspapers, etc.).
The Germans tend not to interfere too much in the businesses they own, so there probably won't be much change in the way they operate.
If you don't want to be taken over by a foreign company, you can put a clause into your company's terms and conditions, which is what the Germans/French/Spanish do. Try buying Siemens, Alstom or Real Madrid and see what happens!
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Apr 23, 2010 9:10:00 GMT 1
...... and now to throw a spanner in the works. Isn't it true that Deutsche Bahn is state owned in Germany? So the restrictions on taking over foreign companies is only one way. Garstonboy is correct; the British Government would not be allowed to finance a company to take over a french/German/Spanish company but theses foreign countries seem to have wangled the rules to suit themselves. Ste-t said something significant when he said "and keep their shareholders happy". Our greedy shareholders would sell their Grandma's for a quick profit. I'll stop now as my blood pressure is rising at an alarming rate. I think I'll go for a train ride to see my sister. I can catch a train owned by the Dutch.
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Post by ezs942 on Apr 23, 2010 16:31:41 GMT 1
as long as the Buses run on time and are of modern stock and run to a decent frequency, with no job loss to the workforce,
it really does not bother me who runs it.. I find German public transport both rail and bus, to be excellent on my travels abroad. and as you would expect from Germans - efficient
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Post by maverick on Apr 23, 2010 19:24:15 GMT 1
Quite clearly not us.
German 'brands' which fed the Third Reich - Mercedes, BMW, AEG, Siemens, etc., etc. all still exist and doing very well whilst I can think of only Rolls-Royce on the British side who exist today and that's now owned by the Germans!
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Post by owensy on Apr 23, 2010 20:42:19 GMT 1
Sorry but does this have anything to do with Liverpool Airport?
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Post by Biggles on Apr 24, 2010 14:39:11 GMT 1
"as long as the Buses run on time and are of modern stock and run to a decent frequency, with no job loss to the workforce, it really does not bother me who runs it" ?? Owensy in answer to: "Sorry but does this have anything to do with Liverpool Airport"? Not just yet, unless it is sold out to a foreign country  |
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Post by RICEY on Apr 25, 2010 13:12:44 GMT 1
its linked to airport as all but 1 bus service to jla is operated by arriva. thats why steve posted it here
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