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Post by northbynorthwest on Sept 1, 2020 21:41:24 GMT 1
I was admiring the pictures from the visit to the Ravenair hangar, and noticed this aircraft in a decidedly unairworthy condition, with the wings propped up against the fuselage of an Aztec, and the rear fuselage standing vertically. I also noticed this same registration making numerous training flights out of Liverpool on FR24. What is the story with this aircraft, which aircraft is actually making these flights, and how come this registration shows up on FR24? I presume this has something to do with swapping the transponder or ADSB (if installed) from the original G-RVRO to a second aircraft. Many thanks.
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Post by Beemer on Sept 2, 2020 7:47:52 GMT 1
northbynorthwest, G-BUBT Glasair SH-1-RG was involved in a taxxying accident on the GA when the undercarriage collapsed and at least one aircraft was badly damaged, G-RVRO Pa-38 being one of them. The wings etc. you can see in the hangar are the the parts that had to be replaced to get it flying again. Regards Beemer.
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Post by stuartabm on Sept 2, 2020 9:07:47 GMT 1
There is definitely something wrong with the FR24 tracks. G-RVRO has definitely not been flying to Birmingham every day and never returning (in one case in just 7 minutes!), although the actual tracks shown are all local, again some depart and never return. Looks like a problem with the Mode S box? Can anyone confirm an actual sighting of G-RVRO since the ground collision)?
Also there is apparently a PA-38 cockpit section section in the hangar behind the Aztec, along with all the other bits, so which PA-38 is this if it isn't G-RVRO? It certainly does not appear in any of the photos taken on the ramp on the same day? A bit more digging needed I think.
Also exactly what date did G-BUBT have its collision with G-RVRO. It has been reported as both the 29th & 30th of November last year? G-RVRO last flew on 29th November last year according to FR24 and didn't take to the air again until 29th July, which could indicate a rebuild but the Covid Lockdown must have had some effect on the timescale
Certainly more questions than answers at present
Stuart
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Post by Beemer on Sept 2, 2020 9:16:06 GMT 1
The G-BUBT & G-RVRO accident happened 10:00hrs on 30th November 2019. Beemer. Seen 06-08-2020/09-08-2020 at LJLA Seen 15-08-2020/18-08-2020 at CEG
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Post by robaero on Sept 2, 2020 9:39:10 GMT 1
The other cockpit could be off G-EMMS which as you know has been PWFU for a while.
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Post by stuartabm on Sept 2, 2020 9:41:57 GMT 1
Thanks for the clarification of the date Brian. Looks like a major rebuild then as the wings (one badly damaged on a trailer), rear fuselage and possibly the cockpit section (If this isn't from G-RVRO then what is it?) are all still present(which doesn't leave much of the original). Still doesn't explain all the duff info on FR24? I know it can often give duff destinations but not every day for more than a month?
Stuart
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Post by Beemer on Sept 2, 2020 12:18:02 GMT 1
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Post by robaero on Sept 2, 2020 13:48:02 GMT 1
G-BNYK maybe?
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Post by Beemer on Sept 2, 2020 13:57:16 GMT 1
You beat me to it Rob. I have just come to that conclusion myself. Beemer
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Post by stuartabm on Sept 2, 2020 15:54:25 GMT 1
Once again thanks for the clarification. Probably also solves where the rebuild parts for G-RVRO came from?
Stuart
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Post by Airbus A346 on Sept 4, 2020 18:52:18 GMT 1
G-RVRO PA-38 Tomahawk alive and well, it went up for one circuit this afternoon - possibly a test flight ?
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Post by bulldog on Sept 4, 2020 20:45:12 GMT 1
Is RVRO a bit like Trigs broom in fools and horses where I can’t remember the exact numbers but he said words to the effect that he has only ever had one broom, but 10 handles and six heads
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Post by Beemer on Sept 4, 2020 21:36:02 GMT 1
G-RVRO out for circuits this morning @ 09:30hrs. Also compliments from the Commander for ascertaining where the parts came from to repair it. G-RVRO Pa-38 Tomahawk Ravenair
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Post by northbynorthwest on Sept 5, 2020 15:43:02 GMT 1
Some really good detective work here. The aircraft looks really sharp.
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