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Post by vanguard on Sept 7, 2020 18:51:41 GMT 1
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Post by Beemer on Sept 7, 2020 22:48:32 GMT 1
The Convair 990 EC-CNJ was last seen by me at Palma in 1988 where it was stored along with seven more and three years later in 1991 scrapped.
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Post by viscount on Sept 7, 2020 23:05:47 GMT 1
I've been trying to work out serials for the BA Boeing 747s from the nose wheel door or fin tip - but have failed, so cannot work out likely dates. I fancy the top two, despite differing colour cast, due to the position it is parked abeam the east wing of the terminal, could well be the first visit of type, G-AWNI on Friday, 10th November 1978, on weather diversion due to fog at Heathrow and landed on BA 266 around 11am, inbound from Mexico, Kingston and Bermuda with 393 passengers. The passengers were ferried to Lime Street to complete their journey to London by train. The aircraft departed empty for London after 3 hours or so on the ground, which probably meant that it arrived in London before the passengers did! My personal story is that I was teaching a mile or so away at that time and pupils kept arriving at my classroom with tales that they could see a 'Jumbo' at the Airport. Eventually at lunch break I sprinted upto the top floor, and there sure enough was a massive BA tail seemingly as high as the control tower above the roof-line of No.2 hangar.
The CP Air Boeing 747 C-GXRA is almost certainly a diversion during the Manchester strikes of 1980 or 1981.
Can't say that I've seen a photo of a Convair Cv-990A Coronado at Liverpool before, well certainly not in recent times. Mind you there have only been two opportunities, within a few days of each other in the same week. EC-CNJ was the first visit of type on Thursday 29th May 1980, f&t Palma as Spantax flight BX 787/788 on diversion due industrial action at Manchester, and at Liverpool 1903-2155. The second was EC-BTE f&t Las Palmas, Spantax BX 727/728 on the evening of Monday 2nd June.
These shots demonstrate that an image doesn't have to be technically 'spot-on' to be fascinating. Any more where those appeared from, Frank?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 10:30:25 GMT 1
I had a little play with the first image and I am sure that the nosewheel door says 'NI'. Great pictures. I assume you had a packed lunch and a bottle of water with you when you went out to take the first one, Frank?
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Post by vanguard on Sept 8, 2020 19:12:52 GMT 1
I had a little play with the first image and I am sure that the nosewheel door says 'NI'. Great pictures. I assume you had a packed lunch and a bottle of water with you when you went out to take the first one, Frank? Not realy Barry i was working on that,all the shots where taken in our "slack" time.
It was 'NI and it was 10-11-78 that puts it ten days after BA left the airport.
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Post by vanguard on Sept 8, 2020 20:00:58 GMT 1
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Post by viscount on Sept 8, 2020 22:59:28 GMT 1
Pleased to find it proven that the BA 'Jumbo' shots were indeed G-AWNI on the first visit by type. Wonderful to see a few more great pictures. The earliest of the new batch is the US Marines Douglas C-9B 160047 on Friday 13th October 1978, routing through from Prestwick to Dublin as 'Lobo 801' in conjunction with the visit to Liverpool by the USS Guadacanal. Next, a few days later in 1978 and also in conjunction with the USS Guadacanal visit is the US Navy Convair C-131F 141009, seen on 16th October 1978 when it routed through from Brawdy to Dublin. This particular aircraft had visited previously during 1975. C-FMIR a Super Canso 2000 (much modified PBY-5A Catalina) of Geoterrex, Canada was at Liverpool Friday 10:00 30th May until 14:53 Sunday 8th June 1980. It arrived from Jersey without the magnetometer tail fitted, so spent the first few days in No.1, then operated several very long 'local' survey flights, before departing for Rennes in France. Finally in 1984, on 27th May USAF, 10th BW, KC-135A 10316 which arrived direct from Griffiss AFB, Rome, USA as "Case 84", with high ranking officials in conjunction with 'America Week' at the IGF (International Garden Festival) at Otterspool. The KC-135A flew on to Mildenhall, the dignitaries left a day later on a USAF VC-140B JetStar. The period 1979-1986 was a good one for the enthusiast at Liverpool with a wide variety of visiting aircraft, although a poor one for the viability of airport as passenger numbers shrank below a quarter of a million per annum. For more: derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/1878 (covers all Convairliners 240-640, T-29, C-131 & Cv.990 at Speke) derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/3177 (covers all amphibious aircraft) derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/17143/boeing-707-720-liverpool (covers all Boeing 707/720/KC-135 visits) plus: derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/7138 (Covers all Boeing 747 visits to Liverpool) derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/1790 (Covers all aircraft carriers visiting the River Mersey, including USS Guadacanal - photos watermarked.) I have noted as a 'must-get-around-to-it' that some of those threads could do with slight updating.
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Post by vanguard on Sept 9, 2020 0:10:46 GMT 1
Thank you Brian for the all the info,all my info is in my diaries(from work)in a cupboard but where is the question.
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Post by Samba on Sept 9, 2020 6:29:31 GMT 1
Great pictures Frank, love the 747, ironic it came in as we had only just closed the base and Midland were now in control. From what I was told the Captain wasn’t very popular when he got back to base, but then BA Captains always thought they were Gods anyway.
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Post by ronturner on Sept 9, 2020 7:42:58 GMT 1
Great. Thanks.
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