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Post by Biggles on Feb 14, 2011 23:08:51 GMT 1
 TV News tonight is that more multi millions are being wasted by getting rid of the military pilots in training now, as they have no aircraft to fly should they complete the courses. BRILLIANT. 100 u/t look likely to be sacked tomorrow  Future wars and air conflicts will have to be fought with MS Flight Sim operatives by UK soon.
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Post by alexmac on Feb 15, 2011 17:49:14 GMT 1
News was delivered by the AVM this afternoon. He flew in on a 32 Sqn HS125 last night and departed around 16.30 today. A sad day for the guys but not unexpected, a lot of talk of this since the SDSR with Sqn Cdrs having to make some hard decisions.
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Post by Biggles on Feb 15, 2011 22:58:09 GMT 1
My uncle flew Lancs and Mossies during the war and remained in service until late 60`s finishing as SATCO at the the ATC school at Shawbury, he and other RAF and B OF B crews must be turning in their graves with news like this. How so politicians like Brown and Blair who left this country in such a deperate financial mess, get away with not being prosecuted.  |
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Feb 16, 2011 0:11:53 GMT 1
Let's knock this blame thing in the head once and for all. The present financial mess started on Wall Street and was made bad for us by the London banks adopting the same malpractises. The present Coalition will repeat ad-norseum the mantra that it was the Labour Governments fault. Say it often enough and people begin to believe it - even if it is a lie. Leave Brown and Blair out of it and blame the heads of the banks who are, even now, ripping us off with their immoral bonus culture. These are the people who should be sleeping uneasily in their beds.
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Post by Biggles on Feb 16, 2011 0:17:23 GMT 1
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Post by johnoakes on Feb 16, 2011 17:34:57 GMT 1
:oI can't believe I have read in this forum someone defending the treachery of Blair and Brown our American poodLes.I suppose if you say it often enough it can be spun to be someone else's fault- -THEY WERE IN CHARGE FOR 13 YEARS FOR GOD'S SAKE ---WHO ELSE SHOULD BE BLAMED. As Victor would say"I don't believe it" LOL  |
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Feb 16, 2011 18:27:27 GMT 1
Johnoakes.
Please read my missive again; I am not defending anyone, I am putting the blame for our present FINANCIAL crisis - not any governmental relationships we may have had with America - firmly at the door of the banks. They mismanaged the finances- some of them even going to the wall when caught out - to such an extent that we, the poor individuals who had money with them, are paying the price. Forget the political dogma and put the blame where it should, rightly, be put - at the bankers door. Remember, these bankers are still paying themselves huge bonuses.
(Sorry to everyone for having taken this topic way off course. I will now desist and stick with the original topic).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 18:49:17 GMT 1
Surely some culpability must rest in the corridors of Westminster for lack of regulation for the financial sector?
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Post by G-PHIL on Feb 16, 2011 19:01:48 GMT 1
We're doomed Captain Mainwaring we're doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 22:14:50 GMT 1
I read somewhere that these cuts are bringing us down to the strength we were at just prior to the start of the second world war. Not sure how true that is but if it is the case, it's taken us over sixty years to get back to normal.
Don't forget the majority of these cuts were already planned under Labour and should they have won the election they would most likely have made more. After all it's only the politicians that have changed and not the civil servants advising them. Anything here remind you of the sitcom 'Yes Minister'?
Also within the last decade there has been mention of a combined European defence force. If this comes about, our defencive strategy will shift from the East to the West coast. At this moment in time most of our forces are stationed in the East and will nolonger be required. It was interesting to note how soon after the election an agreement was reached with the French to use their carriers. This sort of thing takes years of negotiations and not just two heads of state getting together over lunch.
You can almost see what's going to happen next.
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Post by CloudWarrior on Feb 16, 2011 23:05:05 GMT 1
I'm going to play devils advocate here, and make myself even more unpopular with the right wing section of the forum.
Since the Battle of Britain, have we even needed a large Air Force?
I can hear you all choking on your supper and gagging into your cocoa.
After the 2nd World War the threat came from the Eastern Bloc, and so we tooled up with interceptors and bombers. What good would they have been against ICBMs?
And so we then used the RAF to basically supply our ever dwindling Empire, what a waste of fuel that was.
When an aggressive country dared to invade British soil, we needed the Navy, because the RAF couldnt do the job they said they could. Oh they tried, but all they could achieve was to drop 1 bomb on the edge of a runway and spend god knows how much money doing it.
Since then the RAF have been involved in bombing foreign lands where the British Govt have no business in meddling.
So let me ask a question. How many Tornados, Typhoons, Harriers, Vulcans, Nimrods et al does it take to stop a handful of ENGLISH muslims bringing London to a standstill by bombing the underground?
The real enemy is living amongst us, and as long as we continue to tag along with the Americans and support Israel, we will always be open to terrorist atrocities.
Today a nuclear device wont come from a Mig or a Tupolev, it will be smuggled in, or even worse actually built here.
I deplore the way in which this Govt has gone about making savage cuts in every budget, including the military, but lets keep a sense of reality.
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Post by Biggles on Feb 17, 2011 0:29:11 GMT 1
"but lets keep a sense of reality."  Correct, as John mentioned LABOUR held office for HOW LONG ? over a decade of continual office during which time the finances of this country went down the pan, remind me who sold the UK gold reserve at rock bottom prices and now look at gold ? forsight and planning NONE. Chancellor and PM borrowing more money than ever and then even more, at the same time pating out millions of that money to countries pleading poverty whilst at the same time spending billions on nuclear programmes of their own ? It was also the Labour Chancellor who only days before leaving office signed up to a non reversable deal whicj locked the UK and the coalition into paying billions into Europe and Irelands debts. So yes lets get real whilst the Banks had some input to the money market, it was the Government which hammerd nails into the UK finances resulting in the coalito having no money in the kitty. Labour supporters could do well to stop dwelling on the past and look to fixing the present mess. |
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Post by CloudWarrior on Feb 17, 2011 1:03:27 GMT 1
Future wars and air conflicts will have to be fought with MS Flight Sim operatives by UK soon. They already do. RAF personnel in the US, sit at computer screens flying remote control drones over Afghanistan. And bleating on about the past Labour Govt, which I didnt vote for by the way, doesnt answer the question about wether or not 4 squadrons of Typhoons will do anything to stop innocent British people being killed by a terrorist. |
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Post by alexmac on Feb 17, 2011 12:39:29 GMT 1
It was interesting to note how soon after the election an agreement was reached with the French to use their carriers. This sort of thing takes years of negotiations and not just two heads of state getting together over lunch. It won't happen. Logisitically the time and training required for RN personnel to become familiar with the workings of the French carriers won't be worth it (and we don't have the money to spare...). I'll eat my hat the day we fully utlise a French carrier for our own uses. |
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Post by CloudWarrior on Feb 17, 2011 16:37:33 GMT 1
Wonder what the cost would be to change all the signs from French to Anglais.
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TV News tonight is that more multi millions are being wasted by getting rid of the military pilots in training now, as they have no aircraft to fly should they complete the courses. 
