al20a
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Post by al20a on Jun 8, 2009 8:53:13 GMT 1
Hi, Can anyone help with a question I have on Cambrian Airways Viscounts. That where taken over by British Airways around 1974. You see I am sure I saw Viscounts in the summer of 1974 in Cambrian Airways colours with British Airways titles on, just after BA took them over. Now I am having my doubts as I can't find any photos of these anywhere on the internet or in any books or magazines from that time period in 1974 so far that is. I know in Jan 1975 they had all been painted fully up into British Airways colours and an old LAAS aviation news magazine confirms this in the 1975 feb issue. So is there anyone out there or maybe someone you know who can prove my memory right and show me in any old photos they have of BA viscounts in Cambrian Airways colours with BA tittles from the summer of 1974. The Viscounts in question I am looking for in 1974 are Cambrian Viscounts with BA tittles G-AOYG, I , J , M, N, P, S and G-APIM. There's plenty of photos of just Cambrian colour schemes with Cambrian titles and BA ones with BA tittles on the majority of photo websites, but none with Cambrian Airways colours with BA tittles on. regards Albert
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robbos
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Post by robbos on Jun 8, 2009 17:54:11 GMT 1
Hi folks,al20a have a look at the exellent website vickersviscount.org or .com there is a picture of G-AOYM at what looks like Manchester with the Cambrian orange cols and British Airways titles around 1974 .
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Post by viscount on Jun 8, 2009 18:09:38 GMT 1
Suspect that the site with lots of Viscount photos is www.vickersviscount.net Not the easiest site to navigate if you want a particular photo. However I eventually found the one in question, but am unclear as to how, except I started with BA on the drop down operators menu list and scrolled around many photos until by chance confirmed the orange Cambrian scheme with British Airways titles was there. A mix of schemes I don't personally recall, so well done robbos for so quickly pointing to an answer to Albert's question. That makes at least twice in the past few weeks that seemingly impossible historic questions have rapidly been helpfully answered (the other one was '1967'). A pat on the back for the members of this forum.
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Post by kevmul on Jun 8, 2009 22:25:24 GMT 1
Great website Robbos ......brought back plenty of memories. I found the photo you are looking for on the site. www.vickersviscount.net Go to the 'photos' drop-down menu then the 'registration' menu. Select G-AOYM and photo 5 of 14 is exactly what your after.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 5:11:59 GMT 1
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al20a
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Post by al20a on Jun 9, 2009 22:34:10 GMT 1
Thanks Guys. G-AOYM and G-AOYP tied down and G-AOYI photo sent to me. If you go to Vickersviscount.net web site home page and click on PHOTOS, an image of G-AOYP can be found by entering construction number 265, then no. 5 of 34. All I need to tie down now is G-AOYG, I, J, S and G-APIM. As for G-APIM. On the Stephen Piercey Viscount web page it says in Nov 1973 it was painted into full BA colours. I think this must be a misprint and should of read Nov 1974. In a LAAS news mag of July 1975 issue I have, it says Cambrian G-APIM is undergoing a major input at Rhoose and having its cabin layout revised. When returned to service will go to channel to replace G-AOHG. In Turbo prop Airliner production list all it says is Cambrian bought G-APIM on 3/11/71; wfu & stored no date given; then BAF bought 21/1/84. no mention of it being used by BA even though there are photos of it in BA colours knocking about. That's why I think it went in around about the November of 1974 and possibly why Turbo prop is saying it was wfu and stored. So a bit of a confusing period for G-APIM. Everything I have read and looked at so far suggest that G-APIM and OYS where full painted up in BA colours in 1974, but I have my doubt's on this, the latter being possible a misdated photo that I saw. Well, the search goes on for the rest. Thanks again guys. Much appreciated for the help.
Albert
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al20a
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Post by al20a on Jun 19, 2009 16:56:02 GMT 1
Just thought I would keep everyone who is interested, up dated on what I have so far on these Viscounts, from different sources. G-AOYG c/n 256 - rolled out in BA livery on 23 December 1973 from Air Britain 2008 'Vickers Viscounts' Book. Info received from the British Airways Museum.
G-AOYI c/n 257 - rolled out in BA livery on 31 March 1974 from Air Britain mag May 1974 issue. G-AOYJ c/n 259 - No Information as yet on BA c/s rollout.
G-AOYM c/n 262 - Received a photo by Brian Roberts taken 8 June 1974 in Cambrian c/s with BA tittles at Liverpool. There's also a photo on Viscounts.net dated June 1974 c/n 262 photo 5 of 14 page at Manchester. No Information as yet on BA c/s rollout G-AOYN c/n 263 - Photo at Air Britain photo website dated Apr 74 at Manchester/ There's also a photo on Viscounts.net in full BA colours dated July 74 c/n 263 photo 5 of 32 at Rhoose. No Information as yet on BA c/s rollout
G-AOYP c/n 265 - Photo on Viscounts.net dated Mar 74 c/n 265 photo 5 of 34 in Cambrian c/s with BA tittles at Heathrow. No Information as yet on BA c/s rollout
G-AOYS c/n 267- No Information as yet on BA c/s rollout
G-APIM c/n 412 - rolled out in BA livery on 12 November 1973 according to Air Britain 2008 'Vickers Viscounts' Book. Info from the British Airways Museum. So it seems this was the actual date for this roll out, which I orginal thought was a mis-print. It would still be nice to know when G-AOYJ, M, N, P and G-AOYS arrived at Rhoose for painting in full BA colours or date they left after painting into full BA colours. Only these with Information as yet to collect on BA c/s rollout. A shame really, I only found one mention at Rhoose in a 12 Month period for 1974 in some Air Britain mags I received in the last few days of G-AOYI. No mention of any others leaving the paint shop. If anyone has any old Air Britain news mags from 1973, it would be great if they could check to see if there is any mention of BA/ Cambrian Viscounts leaving Rhoose paint shop, ful painted up in BA colurs.
cheers Albert
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