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Post by Beemer on May 27, 2012 16:25:51 GMT 1
I thought this may be of interest to the bus fans. a double deck bus, registered CUV221C.   Regards Beemer. |
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Post by calflier on May 27, 2012 21:59:14 GMT 1
Nice pics Beemer,thanks for posting,Its an ex London Transport RM AEC Routemaster,see quite a few knocking around now,there was one last week at the Barrow hill beer festival in Chesterfield,used by Charles Wells Bombadier cask ale,  |
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Post by RICEY on May 27, 2012 23:29:53 GMT 1
Not just ordinary routemasters these Calflier.
RMC and RCL class
The RMC was a coach version, produced for the "Green Line" routes. RMCs had modified suspension and interiors to allow a longer range and more comfortable running, and had an electrically operated door instead of an open platform. The RCL was a long version of the RMC with a larger engine and similar coach-style features.
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Post by calflier on May 27, 2012 23:32:28 GMT 1
Good information,thought I was being clever knowing they were Routemasters !,Thanks Calflier.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 23:51:49 GMT 1
Nice photo's guys and thanks for posting them. These two are interesting in that they never operated in service in London in the standard red livery. They were delivered new to London County in May 1965 as part of a none standard batch of 43 vehicles and spent their working lives in Green. They differ from standard Routemasters in that they have electric rear doors, rear air suspension, hand luggage racks, and fluorescent lighting. At the time they were also longer than the London Transport versions. Looks like RCL 2240 may have had a front end rebuild as RCL's normally have two sets of headlights.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 23:56:42 GMT 1
Not just ordinary routemasters these Calflier. RMC and RCL class The RMC was a coach version, produced for the "Green Line" routes. RMCs had modified suspension and interiors to allow a longer range and more comfortable running, and had an electrically operated door instead of an open platform. The RCL was a long version of the RMC with a larger engine and similar coach-style features. Sorry Jordan, Must have been writing mine as you posted yours. I've left mine as some of the info (not a lot) is additional to yours. Steve |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 12:10:22 GMT 1
Bus nuts and aviation fans alike may find this basic guide to Routemaster identification helpful.
There are two basic types of Routemaster; standard (27') and long (30') which when viewed from the side are easy to tell apart. The standard has 6 upper deck windows, long 7, the 7th window is also shorter than the others. It now starts to get a little more complicated but the fleet number prefix makes it a little easier.
RM stands for Routemaster and other than experimental versions was applied to all 27' London Transport (red) buses. The 30' version has an additional 'L' making these RML
Most Routemasters delivered new to London Country were coach versions and the letter 'C' was added. Therefore the standard length bus became RMC and the longer version had the letter 'M' dropped and 'L' added, making them RCL. London Country buses were all green and in the main had two sets of headlights as they also had to travel on poorly/unlit roads outside of the capital.
Very few operators bought Routemasters as they were introduced when the front loading Atlanteans began to appear, the latter being deemed unfit for central London operation. Something that runs true today, hence the introduction of the Borrismaster. However, they were also purchased by BEA, and London General. Unlike London Transport, these two bought front loading versions which became RMA and RMF. The RMA's operated the airport services and were 27' versions capable of towing a trailer. RMF's were all 30' and operated by London General.
So, from an aviation point of view if you see a fleet number beginning RMA it was formally used by BEA on Heathrow/Gatwick services.
Just to conclude;
RM 27' London Transport (red)
RML 30' London Transport (red)
RMC 27' London Country (green)
RCL 30' London Country (green)
RMA 27' Front loading - BEA Airport services
RMF 30' Front loading - London General (dark red)
Should anyone spot RMF 1254 (254 CLT) take a photo as she has both Liverpool and BEA connections. She was purchased new by London Transport for front loading trials. Unfortunately, these weren't successful and she then toured the country on loan to local authorities. She subsequently graced the streets of Liverpool in the early 60's. Later she was fitted with a towbar and was used on trials by BEA. These were a success and as a result the over 60 RMA's were purchased. RMF 1254 was later sold to London General. She retired in 1980 and was sold for preservation but is still seen out and about today.
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