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Post by G-PHIL on Feb 17, 2012 13:38:24 GMT 1
They should of left things as they were, it was nice to be able to go upstairs and sit near Burger King. I used to get something to eat from Burger King or from W H Smith whilst spending a couple of hours at the airport, but sadly this option has been removed now.
Loads of family members spent time together before they went through to departures for their flight, they were able to say there goodbyes to Boyfriend, Girlfriend, Father etc: in warm surroundings and even wait to watch their aircraft depart.
It's all down to making money, get the passengers in and rip them off with high prices for food and drink, high car park prices and poor facilities.
I wonder how many staff in the shops and bars are not even English and get paid the minimum wage.
I know people have their own opinion and are entitled to do so, but i think some people on this forum will defend the airport because they work there or are involved in some way, and therefore are not going to agree with some of the negative comments on here.
We'll just have to wait and see what the new concept of welcoming people to the airport and city brings.
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Post by G-PHIL on Feb 17, 2012 13:42:44 GMT 1
lfc84 believe me, there are worse - much worse. Sounds great LPL look forward to it. Ste-t Do you mean the toilets at the back of the Arriva Buses which are the invisible ones? I used to get on the 26 or 27 and the smell at the back of the bus was terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 18:54:43 GMT 1
G-Phil.
I used to think that until I came across a cleaner mopping the floor with disinfectant that smelt the same. Why anyone would want to manufacture a scent like that is beyond me. If passengers were using them as toilets the advent of CCTV will have put a stop to it.
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Post by liverpoolman1 on Feb 18, 2012 8:17:46 GMT 1
The topic now seems to be bus related. Let's get back to the original - Airports have an attraction to families wishing to wave goodbye to departing family members/friends and also have the opportunity to make non-travellers aware of their existence and potential future use. If, in its own right, it is constructed as an "attraction" then others, in addition to aircraft spotters/enthusiasts, will be attracted to spend car parking, shopping and food and drink monies there. Seems obvious to me and I can't wait to see what the new set-up will be like.
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Post by lfc84 on Feb 19, 2012 15:28:56 GMT 1
of course there are much worse toilets in the city. the comment was made tongue in cheek. but to be quite honest the landside toilets are a disgrace and a filthy mess. there is quite often one cubicle out of order of blocked full. the cleaning standards are terrible. the sooner they are sorted out the better. my other half informs me that the ladies are also in a filthy, disgusting and broken state
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Post by davel on Feb 19, 2012 21:46:14 GMT 1
Quite often there are cubicles out of use because some idiot keep pinching the toilet seats!! Up to 20 have gone in the last 12 months.
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Post by ronturner on Feb 20, 2012 8:48:26 GMT 1
It seems to me that airports, Liverpool included, take in a vast amount of revenue from car parking. Might it be an idea to divert some of this revenue to full time staffing of the toilets? My experience is that staffed toilets are normally very satisfactory because misuse/theft/vandalism is kept to negligible levels and cleaning takes place very regularly. Normally one pays to use fully staffed toilets, and normally I would be happy to pay up for a decent facility, but in the case of airports I am reluctant to suggest this; having already forked out for booking fees, credit card fees, baggage fees, fuel surcharges, handling fees, car parking fees, security fast track fees, seat allocation fees, speedy boarding fees...(anyhting I have forgotten?). On the other hand, having paid all that, whats another 50p for a visit without fear of infection or offending the nose.
Then again, maybe the city of Liverpool might like to provide staff so that visitors get a good first impression of the city.
Here where I live, the free toilets at La Rochelle airport are not too great, always clean looking but always smelly, whereas at Nantes Airport the staffed toilets, where you just leave a tip, are impeccable and the same at the railway station where one has to pay 1 euro but its like visiting a nice bathroom in a fine hotel.
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Post by johnoakes on Feb 20, 2012 9:59:18 GMT 1
Could not agree more.Something else we can learn from our European cousins.
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Post by maverick on Feb 20, 2012 12:04:33 GMT 1
I don't hold with this idea of double charging for things to be acceptable - in this case, the toilets. You are already paying to use the Airport and its facilities. Toilets should be clean and presentable as a standard.
We are not a third world country like France, where toilets have to be paid for to be acceptable. It is a basic human requirement that we need a toilet; not a tick-box add-on where the well-off can pee and poo in luxury whilst the rest of us crouch over an open drain.
We should resist these extra charges at all cost. I have always opposed, and still reel at, the idea of paying extra for fast track to get through security in a reasonable time and in some cases just to catch the flight in time.
There is a very well known tactic that if you can't provide a decent service then you mask the problem by providing an option. Thus removing the blame from the provider to the customer.
Mr Angry
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Post by ronturner on Feb 20, 2012 14:47:51 GMT 1
As I said in my reply point 21, I don't really like the idea of paying twice for anything, but sometimes its a fact of life and in any case I did point out that the airport should use some of its huge revenue from car parking to pay for decent toilets.
On the other subject raised by Maverick I just think it is a great shame that the UK has to rely on a third world country to provide all of its nuclear energy, a good portion of its clean water, a sizeable part of its communications network, the technology for a high speed railway network, the leadership of its civil aviation manufacturing industry and in the next couple of decades, 50% of its defense capability.
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Post by davel on Feb 21, 2012 16:43:11 GMT 1
Airside toilets near gate 30 have been refurbished and the west area (Ryanair end) has been painted over the last few days.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 18:57:29 GMT 1
You forgot buses Ron. 25% of the UK's bus companies are now in foreign ownership of which 9% are in the hands of one Singaporean, and two French based operators.
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Post by Biggles on Feb 21, 2012 20:28:01 GMT 1
Talking of foriegn owners of things, I read yesterday that the Hotel Chain known as Travel Lodge which is in financial crisis, is owned by a Dubai Operation, but is now being looked at to be taken over by Americans.
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Post by Speke-EZY on Feb 21, 2012 21:48:19 GMT 1
It should be illegal to charge for the use of toilets. If permitted to go ahead in airports,you will soon find yourself having to pay for a pee in garages,pubs,motorway service stations,football grounds,and any other establishment that can get away with it. This is just another money-grabbing scam.
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Post by andyh on Feb 21, 2012 22:11:49 GMT 1
Habu, where on earth do you think the phrase 'spending a penny' came from? Charging for using a loo is not a modern phenomena...
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