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Post by trumpeter on Jan 17, 2010 20:08:13 GMT 1
Apparently there are only 2 examples remaining in UK. The national museums have expressed little interest to date re preservation. Is anyone aware of any other campaigns to save one? Perhaps one could be preserved via JetStream Club and displayed on old apron?
SOS HS748!
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Post by northwestern on Jan 25, 2010 19:23:26 GMT 1
A much lamented topic the old budgie in preservation.
Off the top of my head I am guessing the 2 you mean are - G-BEJD & G-BVOV?
JD is supposedly going to the museum at Millom whilst OV is due to be sunk into a quarry as a diving attraction. After that all that is left is the front end and tail of G-ORAL with a private collector on the wirral and the stripped front end of G-ATMI (came off the fire dump at Blackpool) at Millom.
A mate of mine is involved with JetStream Club and talking to him they would like to get one for Speke if one became available, it would just come down to getting the funds together to do it. So maybe someone should give them a push and get a campaign started!
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Post by Nino Alfonso on Jan 25, 2010 23:57:35 GMT 1
Couple of pictures of G-BEDG & G-BVOV:  G-BVOV @ Liverpool  G-BEDJ @ Liverpool [Pictures courtesy of http://www.baaa-acro.com] |
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Post by Ryanairflyer on Jan 26, 2010 0:19:55 GMT 1
Are two not still in service with Janes Aviation?
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Post by Nino Alfonso on Jan 26, 2010 9:49:07 GMT 1
In reply to your question, yes! G-AYIM:Originally come into service in the 70's (11.08.70), then on the 10.08.70 the aircraft was transfered to an unqualified owner @ Richmond Road, Kingston upon-thymes, Surrey. Then in the mid 90's (21/06/1994) The aircraft was baught by Emerald Airways and they operated the aircraft up until 11/12/2006. In late 2000's the aircraft moved to Blackpool Airport And was owned by PTB (Emeralds) PTY up until 11/12/2006. And recentley on 03/05/2008 Janes Aviation bought the aircraft and they still do at current.    G-OSOEIs owned by Janes Aviation, although the aircraft at current is still registered to:PTB (Emeralds) PTY, although there is a request for name & ownership change at current. |
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Post by trumpeter on Jan 26, 2010 19:12:10 GMT 1
Could I ask any member here.... Would you put me in contact with Jetstream Club re 748 preservation....
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Post by viscount on Jan 26, 2010 20:47:00 GMT 1
The Chairman and web guru of the Jetstream Club is Roy Coates. He is a member of this forum, and will no doubt eventually see your request for contact. I'm not one for publishing the address (postal or web) of others in public - however the 'contact us' page of www.jetstream-club.org does provide an address link to Roy. |
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Post by northwestern on Feb 1, 2010 13:55:47 GMT 1
You guys sure about Janes still going as they dont hold a Type A, B or Air Transport Operating Licence - www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=183&pagetype=90&pageid=340So without that the most they can do is fly around with no cargo for fun...... I am also happy to be proved wrong but are the aircraft even in this country? I am sure I heard someone say they had gone back to the leasing company and be re-leased possibly in Africa. trumpeter - any joy with getting hold of JetStream Club? |
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Post by Ryanairflyer on Feb 1, 2010 14:29:46 GMT 1
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Post by northwestern on Feb 2, 2010 12:04:16 GMT 1
Happy to be corrected Ryanairflyer  |
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Post by thepaperplane on Apr 9, 2010 23:00:00 GMT 1
Further to northwesterns post last July, regarding the extant 748's, I can add a bit more info as to the state of play at the moment.
In addition to Millom having the nose of "Old Ben" - ATMI, they also have, indoors at the same site, the very truncated cockpit section of G-OPFW, the red ex-Parcel Force machine.
Millom are in no position to retrieve BEJD from Blackpool having limited manpower and moving facility to carry out the dismantling and transportation of the airframe - let alone any reassembly work if/when it gets there. Notwithstanding that, they are, at present, not prepared to let it go to any other party such as the Jetstream Club.
We have done an appraisal of what is required to dismantle the aircraft and decided, on the basis of cost and simplicity, to cut the aircraft to be able to ship it out. This was rejected by the-then owners, AMS, and they stipulated that it must only be dismantled.
Millom promised to do this but the most recent word on this is that, if they do get it, they may have to cut it, even though they originally stated that they wouldn't.
At the moment (9 April 2010) 'JD still stands forlornly at Blackpool and my view is that time is running out for the aircraft to be rescued. Blackpool airport must be getting fed up with it and AMS will be none too pleased if it continues to sit there. JSC may well reject it now but, should an offer of the aircraft be made to the group, they would reach a quick decision on what they would do, though this may be a No, after all.
Saving an airframe of this size (nearly 100ft span and 65ft long) is no mean feat and comes at a price. However, it should be done, if we are to preserve a very underrepresented type in UK museums. I have pledged my help but this is only on condition that, wherever it goes that there is some reasonable guarantee of it being reassembled - which at Millom it is likely not.
Whilst any home is a good home, when it comes to an airframe being saved. It is, however, a waste of money and resources if that home is but a brief respite from the scrapman's skip.
thepaperplane
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Post by robbos on Apr 10, 2010 17:56:34 GMT 1
Hi folks,if anyone has not seen it the nose section of HS 748 2A G-ORAL it has turned up at the old R A F Hooton Park South Wirral and is visable from South Road behind a wire fence near the Hangar that is about to fall down  ! Regards Robbo s. |
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Post by Biggles on Apr 10, 2010 19:04:16 GMT 1
If only we in Britain could find the same people, money as other countries manage to do, who have an interest in saving aircraft so they do not vanish into oblivion. There has got to be better endings to flying than being dumped in a lake or left to rot in a scrap yard. I doubt Thunder City owners in SA would be in the same situation with the Vulcan as the Vulcan Trust is for just one example.  |
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Post by thepaperplane on Apr 19, 2010 22:07:32 GMT 1
Yes, the cockpit of G-ORAL ("The Paper Plane, Owned and operated by Emerald Airways" it says on the nose) is at Hooton Park.
The only correction I could make to your post, robbos, is the fact that the hangar next to it hasfallen down.
Now then, I wonder who owns that cockpit section???
signed:
thepaperplane
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Post by vickersfour on Apr 19, 2010 23:05:08 GMT 1
Hello
I was wondering what state the cockpit of 'AL is in (panels, instruments, control columns etc). Would it at some stage be available for viewing? I wonder if after nearly four years whether I could remember what all the bits and pieces were?
Cheers
Shaun
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! Regards Robbo s.
