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Post by LPL on Feb 3, 2012 10:34:16 GMT 1
Liverpools Cruise Liner Terminal has now been approved despite the best efforts of other UK cities.
The terminal, backed by Liverpool Airport, will now have turnaround facilities (including Customs) to enable cruises to be started from the city as opposed to a port of call venue.
Hopefully the turnround status will bring a boost to pax through LPL too.
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Post by calflier on Feb 3, 2012 11:31:19 GMT 1
Some good news for Liverpool at last,has a time frame been announced yet,I am currently based in the Far East,so missing keeping up with everthing,thanks Calflier,
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 3, 2012 14:02:00 GMT 1
I think the article in the Echo was saying the hoped to have tempary building up in a few months subject to planning etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 14:10:53 GMT 1
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Post by calflier on Feb 3, 2012 15:46:02 GMT 1
Many thanks, Dave and Ghostrider.
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Post by LPL on Feb 3, 2012 15:54:11 GMT 1
The article mentions planning applications for the facility.
I know it wont sit well with non-Cunard liners but the Cunard Building will be a great site for those facilities.
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 5, 2012 14:03:29 GMT 1
LPL was thinking the same thing I'm sure the lease is up for renewal at the moment as well
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Post by Biggles on Feb 5, 2012 20:31:30 GMT 1
Having repaid the public money given over time each Cruise Ship is estimated at putting roughly £1.2m back into the economy, so stick that in yiour pipe Southampton and smoke it.
This is brilliant news for the whole NW.
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Post by Fox Echo on Feb 6, 2012 22:21:01 GMT 1
The article mentions planning applications for the facility. I know it wont sit well with non-Cunard liners but the Cunard Building will be a great site for those facilities. Cunard Building is currently owned by the Merseyside Pension Fund. The entire ground floor that once accommodated the Cunard passenger first class check-in area & hundreds of clerks now stands empty. In its heyday the company sometimes had several of its ships in the river at the same time & the size of the facilities reflected this. It remains to be seen just how many new start & finish sailings will be attracted. Nice idea but I cannot see how it would be viable for the owner or any tenant to tie up such a vast space all year round. It would also effect any plans by the owners to convert the building to a luxury hotel as has been mooted in the local press. |
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 7, 2012 13:24:25 GMT 1
Thanks for the info Fox Echo
Would of been nice maybe they could combine the two as I'm sure some passenger sailing on the cruises would also stay overnight
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Post by bluefox on Feb 7, 2012 13:33:56 GMT 1
Like it ghostrider
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Post by davel on Feb 17, 2012 17:29:10 GMT 1
I see the Echo are saying the cruise liner terminal has interested Cunard now . It is reported they will be starting cruises at the terminal late next year as the programme is already fixed for the next 12 months. They are also to recommence transalantic to New York from Liverpool, not on a regular basis but as a part cruise, with the return via a flight. That could mean more business for the airport too. Interesting times ahead.
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Post by Fox Echo on Feb 18, 2012 0:32:19 GMT 1
There seems to be a great deal of presumption here by Liverpool City Council & its leader Joe Anderson, along with "exclusive" reports by Peter Elson in the Liverpool Daily Post & Echo.
According to a spokesman for the Department of Transport, despite local press reports Liverpool was being presumptive as no deal to allow the terminal to be used in this way has yet been agreed with Liverpool City Council by the government & it will be for the European Commission to consider & decide.
As for the Cunard reports, they were asked by the Daily Post if they were likely to resume transatlantic sailings to New York, to which they responded "it's possible. but not this year & if we did it would not be a scheduled service but an occasional ad hoc charter.
The travel press is still generally stating that no agreement has yet been reached. Perhaps Joe Anderson is flying his own flag for the local press ahead of him seeking the forthcoming new role of elected mayor. I would personally certainly wish to see the present terminal restrictions lifted but feel we are unlikely to see any marked increase in traffic for some time. Furthermore I cannot really see the terminal significantly affecting pax numbers at Liverpool airport, so maybe this topic is in the wrong section.
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Post by LPL on Feb 18, 2012 1:04:39 GMT 1
Yes no agreement has been made but the payback amount that has been discussed with the DfT was welcomed by them. The parties involved have also agreed to do what the independent ruling on the situation recommends.
There is of course two grants that made up the sum that went to build the current facility, one from the Government and one from the EC.
The Government grant is the one to which Southampton are moaning about. Now that they are likely to lose the argument they are now turning their attention to the EC grant.
Strange argument from the Southampton owners (ABP) though because are registered in Jersey to avoid UK tax and they also received grants to enable the Port of Southampton to build and enhance rail connections to an inland container terminal in the Midlands thats owned by a certain company called ABP too!
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Post by baldyman26 on Feb 18, 2012 12:31:56 GMT 1
OK so is the turn around facility happening or not. It would be bad press to say it is when nothing has been officially agreed. I do know though that planning permission has been lodged for the marquis that will act as the terminal.
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