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Post by calflier on Oct 17, 2009 14:10:25 GMT 1
Seems like LPL has missed the boat(sorry plane)on The Prague route,now well established from nearby airports ,and Jet2 starting from Man in summer 2010,looks unlikely anyone else will try,I think LPL missed out when Easyjet stated Basle(now also discontined).on the Easyjet 1st issue summer time table that year 2005 I think, the original flight numbers EZY7131/7132 were showing LPL/PRG /LPL and not LPL/BSL/LPL.It is thought that Basle airport made an offer to EZY that year just weeks before the flight went on sale,and EZY changed the destination before taking any bookings,I think thats when LPL lost the Prague route not just now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2009 18:53:48 GMT 1
Disappointing news Looking at the CAA figures AUG 3983 153 per flight SEP 3824 147 per flight not bad loads for a route only started in mid July (I know loads are not everything and yield is important) Wizz seems to struggle making things that are not going to Poland work but a decision after three months with the above figures baffle me. If these figures are correct, I'm sure another airline will jump at the opportunity to run the service from Liverpool. |
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Post by LPL on Oct 17, 2009 20:44:55 GMT 1
Could be thats the reason they are coming off it.
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Post by tonyspeke on Oct 17, 2009 22:07:27 GMT 1
Where does this information regarding the Prague service come from?
Summer 2010 for the Warsaw service is yet to be listed as well.
In September the airline announced there would be a third aircraft at Prague for Summer 2010 and there would be a Liverpool service.
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Post by harbourcotter on Oct 18, 2009 16:20:33 GMT 1
If it does disappear, it will be extremely disappointing. It is an excellent destination, if you havent been, I would certainly recommend it.
However, although the outbound flight was over 90% full, the inbound was around 80%, I paid very little for the flight. There was also very few British passengers, the overwhelming majority being Czech or other eastern european. The only British passengers I noticed on the return flight were curiously all from the Derbyshire area, although travelling seperately and on speaking to them it was the first time they had heard of wizzair and they were a bit worried about this.
I think that wizzair has too low a profile in the area and that it effectively concentrates on inbound to LPL, therefore to be honest I dont see a major influx from places like Prague (and Budapest previously), the other flights attracts migrant workers (although to be fair some were on this flight). Both of these destinations I am sure can be a success from LPL, I would like to think by Wizzair, but RYR would certainly make a success of it due to the higher profile in the area. (although this may never happen as wizz and ryanair appear to keep a healthy distance from each other)
Its because of the limited knowledge of Wizzair and its routes that I believe that a LPL Holiday fair is essential in promoting these and other routes. If it can not be facilitiated at LPL or the old airport site, then perhaps a venue in Liverpool city centre should be used. It would be a shame to lose services through a lack of knowledge. The benefits must outweigh the costs, and even a small entrance charge could be used to offset this at least.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2009 19:12:15 GMT 1
Somewhere like St Georges Hall would be fine but I would steer clear of charging people. You need to get this sort of info over to as many as possible and I'm sure the airlines/travel trade would be able to club together to share the costs.
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Post by andyh on Oct 19, 2009 9:13:40 GMT 1
I'm very surprised if the route is to end - 147 per flight is an 82% load factor which is pretty good given the relatively low profile the launch got. The September figures were only around 100 pax fewer than the well-established Jet2 service from Leeds carried (on four flights per week) and about 40% of the levels carried by CSA and BMI Baby from MAN. There must be more to this than meets the eye...
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Post by sfp on Oct 19, 2009 10:15:04 GMT 1
Like 'Tony Speke' I am not sure this is a fact.
Just because routes are not loaded into the booking machine yet it does not mean they will not become available.
Remember up until a couple of years ago you could not book the following summer flights until about December.
I think slots are only fixed in October (someone will be able to give more information on this aspect)
The LoCos have taken greater risks on their likely flights (presumably as they can warn clients of changes via e-mail) and with the economic situation there is less pressure on slots
I have heard from some friends that they went to Prague on a package organised by a reputable UK operator and used Wizzair from Liverpool. They spoke well of the experience.
I hope the RUMOUR turns out to be false.
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Post by andyh on Oct 19, 2009 10:58:24 GMT 1
Having looked at the Wizzair timetable this morning it would seem that none of the PRG routes are loaded for the summer which may tie in with Tony's earlier comment about Wizz adding extra capacity into PRG for 2010. Perhaps the timetables are being finalised to incorporate the additional based aircraft. I also notice that not all destinations from Warsaw have flights loaded past 28/3/10. I think there is hope yet...
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Post by davel on Oct 23, 2009 8:50:11 GMT 1
Spoke to senior airport management about supposed withdrawl of Prague and he was taken aback saying it is a suprise to them as they thought Wizzair were going to expand at LPL not reduce. The delay to the uploading of the Prague flights could be they have not finalised their intentions. Lets be positive and not always look on the dark side!!  |
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Post by andyh on Oct 23, 2009 17:06:54 GMT 1
Liverpool - Warsaw is now loaded through to the end of October, four flights a week (M, We, Fr, Su)
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Post by liamfr on Oct 23, 2009 19:56:07 GMT 1
Very sad if confirmed, travelled out to PRG 17/10 returned 20/10.
The flight out had no more than 50 pax, return flight approx 120. Vast majority of pax not English. Seems to be the reason for the failure of the BUD and OTP, not enough UK originating pax.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 20:11:47 GMT 1
I cant see this as they have just started advertising Prague from LJLA on the rear end of Arriva buses. Having said that, it could be a case of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. An all too common mistake in advertising.
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Post by davel on Oct 24, 2009 10:20:05 GMT 1
I've had it officially confirmed that Prague is to continue from airport management. It was late being loaded.  |
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Post by andyh on Nov 19, 2009 15:22:52 GMT 1
Seats for Summer 2010 now bookable through to the end of October 2010, twice weekly. Flights recheduled to depart LPL at 07:45 returning at 07:15 Tuesday and Saturday. As yet the timetable on the wizzair site has not been updated.
As things stand the airline will have 14 flights per week into Liverpool next summer. Gdansk, Katowice and Warsaw each operate four times a week (M / W / F / Su), Prague twice weekly as explained above.
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